LogarithmicCamel

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[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is just more keto pseudoscience. Unfortunately people care more about YouTube videos than what reputable sources say: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/diabetes/overview/symptoms-causes#type

Not disputing that excess fructose can cause liver damage, but most studies demonstrating this have mice ingesting absurd amounts. This doesn't happen when you are eating a normal amount of food anyway. Excess water can kill you, but no one avoids drinking water because of this.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They don't compete or do hard workouts without consuming carbohydrates though. The anaerobic metabolism doesn't run on fat no matter how much you train, and it brings a lot of extra energy. You simply can't go as hard as you can without carbohydrate.

Ruminants might be able to convert more fat to glucose, I don't know about that, but humans can't. Would be wonderful if we could, considering we can store almost infinite fat but only a meager amount of carbohydrate.

Wikipedia explains it well: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

I forgot to mention odd-chain fatty acids besides glycerol, but they also just give you half of a glucose molecule.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Already do many of those. World is still heating up. Somehow I don't think I can cool it with my recycling bin, the petitions that I signed and the votes that I cast. That's the problem.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It is protein poisoning. Having fat available just means you can consume less protein in order to not starve.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

No, that's all keto pseudoscience.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Only very very little fat (the glycerol part) can be converted to glucose actually. The main source for gluconeogenesis is protein. And our bodies hate converting protein to glucose. You can guess why! This is why endurance athletes are constantly sipping on a sugary drink as they compete

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't have the same incentive to quit sugar either. It's not illegal, it won't make you crash your car and kill someone, the police won't arrest you for driving under the influence of sugar, you won't lose your job because you were caught using sugar, your family won't leave you because of your sugar habit, strangers won't feel ashamed or depressed if they see you using sugar in a public place etc.

Sure, there is obesity and diabetes, but they are directly caused by an excess of calories, not sugar. Sugar might make you eat more, or so people say, but does it really? You can still overeat plenty of greasy salty stuff.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is exactly the famous rat park experiment. Yes, the rats consumed vastly less cocaine when they were in a fun rat park compared to a box, where they became totally obsessed cocaine fiends.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Very very little fat can be converted to sugar actually. It's usually protein that gets converted.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did it many times and it wasn't awful in any way. If you cut all carbs, that's different though, and it has little to do with addiction and a lot to do with your body entering ketosis. That's not to deny that food can be addictive. Anything can be addictive. People get addicted to porn, phones and computer games after all. But people blow this sugar thing way out of proportion.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

If it really bothers you, every time you realise you did this, delete the previous word before the F and retype it, maybe even a few times, while paying attention to every movement. Slowing down helps too.

[–] LogarithmicCamel@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because none of these articles explain to the reader what exactly they should do to minimise this problem and how much exactly they stand to gain and lose from doing it. People are only interested in obtaining useful (aka actionable) information.

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