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[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's not hard to swallow. It's shoved down our throats daily.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Isn’t every single nation known to man making decisions that best serve themselves?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Norway puts all its oil money into a national trust it uses to improve the quality of life for its citizens like provide free education. The US government says its illegal to cancel student debt.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

But the post is about foreign policy not internal policy

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People keep saying this but never providing proof this is true.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one -1 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the link. So the Oil Fund seems no different than any other countries pension fund, with the exception that it relies heavy on 25 particular U.S. oil companies and hopes they remain profitable.

Great sounds good for the environment...

[–] archomrade@midwest.social -1 points 5 months ago

I think I told someone the other day that nobody was suggesting liberals supported imperialist activities on the basis of their liberal ideology

I think I owe that person an apology

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Sure, but the US starts and supports a lot more wars than any other country and wastes as many tax dollars on it as the next ten countries combined, so it's fair to single them out.

[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

but picking on the new guy is so easy.

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Go ahead and try, China and Russia combined can't do it.

[–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

very easily swallows the pill, as this has been known for decades and is the same literally everywhere

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago

We can't help but involve ourselves in international atrocities. What are we supposed to do when they obviously benefit our capitalistic interests??

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, was that different in any point in time?

Basically all wars start (and end) out of economic interests (which come in a wide variety, eg land, easier enforced economic policies over another country, colonialism with military bases, or even just pain old money spent on war industry).

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Basically all wars start (and end) out of economic interests

I would dispute this very strongly, unless you simplify 'economic interests' to mean anything and everything that brings gain to anyone, at which case a politician starting a war solely for PR to stay in power would count as doing so for 'economic interests'.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

True, but even politicians can't start a war without incentivizing a whole machine of people to do it. And that power needs to come from somewhere and kept being fed.

The victor never really (or voluntary) leaves the spoils, or the land.

[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

From the outside looking in I eat this pill so much it's easy to swallow nowadays.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wish, then the US would actually do what needs to be done

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

The free market will save us

[–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"By the capitalistic short term intrests of its politicians"

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

That makes more sense

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I also know only the very basics of foreign policy. I guess when workers rise up and seize the means of production it’ll be a moot point.

“What do you have to lose?” - Donald Trump

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago

much complicated, very nuance

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It is not all that bad. Wealth creation needs peace, rule of law and happy to spend consumers. I would be more afraid some ideological guy leading country towards what his ideology says it must be.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It is not all that bad. Wealth creation needs peace

All the wars for oil and other resources would disagree.

So would the obscene profits of the military industrial complex.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago

Sure, but nothing compares with WW2 and many wars triggered by the Cold War.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago

"Stay still and let the peace sweep over you"