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[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 211 points 6 months ago (5 children)
[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 191 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

When I quit at McDonalds to start a career in welding, the owner of the store happened to be visiting. He took me aside and told me "You know, those guys at... (Sorry, what was that place called again? Right...) You know, I've heard the people there aren't as nice as we are here. Are you sure you want to leave?"

I've never wanted to punch an old man so much in my life. In that moment, he was the personification of class warfare to me, trying to "trick" me into throwing away my future just so he could have more cheap labour. And the fact it was so blatantly obvious added insult to, well... insult.

Anyway, it's not the same, but the "wallpapers" thing definitely gives me the same vibes, lol.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 55 points 6 months ago

It really is the same thing though. It’s out of touch, insulting, and downright disrespectful to use something that is not unique to the provider, or valuable at all, as a reason to stay with said provider.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 33 points 6 months ago

They have me by the wallpapers!

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 months ago

Well, you have to admit they are by far the best feature of bing

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The xiaomi wallpaper carousel is the worst piece of soft on my phone, I don't care and no you can't have all those accesses.

Had to install some freeware to just set the backgrounds wtf is this, the way they are getting people now??

[–] lunachocken@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Literally used adb to forcefully remove it... It reinstalled itself. Bruh

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[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 124 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This isn't funny, this is just the sad state of software these days.

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

It’s funny how chrome users are struggling with all those bullshit. Firefox for the win

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 95 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought we were past the age of toolbar spam

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago

It never went away, just the degree of desperation has changed

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 78 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Why would anyone in 2024 honestly switch to google products.

They are worse than microsoft, and that takes effort.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 43 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Well when the alternative is Bing quality search results, Google still has a slight edge.

That gap is closing by the day tho.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 70 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That gap has flipped. Bing never told me to put glue on pizza or to jump off a bridge if depressed.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

~~It is telling you to eat that deadly mushroom though.~~

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

The gap has been favouring bing (DuckDuckGo) for a while now in my experience. Every time I use Google or just doesn’t find what I’m looking for. Just a few days ago, when Bing was down and I had to use Google, I tried searching for the new beta nvidia Linux drivers. Google didn’t even include the official nvidia site in the first page of results. When I later searched for the same thing again, using DuckDuckGo, it was the first result… and stuff like that happens every time I need to use Google. The only category Google still seems to have a slight edge in is current (as in happening right now) events.

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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nah, the way Microsoft and Edge work still enrages me. I just use both Chrome and Firefox atm, with Chrome behind my VPN and Firefox split tunneled. I'm still on 10, but when I have the freedom to do so I'm going to switch to Linux. I can't just up and do it at the moment because I work through my computer and also game through it, so I need to have a ton of things ensured workable before I switch. That requires time and testing, and in an ideal environment a second system to run in parallel, which I cannot do atm.

I've heard our work may be purchasing work laptops for us, so I might be able to do my switch then.

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[–] anarchist@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft is magnitudes worse than google.

[–] fleckenstein@social.lizzy.rs 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

@anarchist @kbin_space_program in the same sense that pissing yourself is better than shitting yourself maybe

[–] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Because most people are not anywhere near as computer literate as much of Lemmy would have you believe.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Bing (and therefore duckduckgo) was down a couple days ago. I could imagine people temporarily switching to google during the outage.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 72 points 6 months ago

Gross
But considering the current state of Google search, not as gross as it was.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago (5 children)

You Chrome folks need extensions to use non-Google search engines?

Firefox uses just bog standard OpenSearch definitions. No shenanigans. Ships with both Google and Bing if you're into that sort of things. And you can add arbitrary search URLs, no probalo.

[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

No, it looks like something Windows automatically added to their chrome to enforce Bing, unless something changed recently and I didn't know about it

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 11 points 6 months ago

You don't, but you can.

[–] J891319@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to use an extension to do it, but some find it easier to do than finding it in settings.

The same is true for Firefox.

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[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft is offering wallpapers, ask Google what it's offering before you make the decision.

[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Violations of privacy. Microsoft has that too though, so unless Google has wallpapers they need to step up their game.

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[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was asking myself the same thing. This is a pathetic state of affairs... The only thing missing is that the google banner would now also acknowledge the Bing box and tell you specifically "don't listen to the other popup!".

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Midlevel management does this, not developers

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[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Apart from the search engines being both shitty, here there's nothing wrong

If you installed an extension to use bing search, what you want is to use bing search, not Google. So of course the extension has to say "don't switch"

There's also a good point on chrome's side. There's extensions that will switch your default search engine without your consent, so having the possibility to undo directly is nice.

Another way to see it, would be to switch chrome for firefox, Google search for duck duck go, and bing to qwant. Same story, but no shitty companies clouding judgements

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

You know that scene in Who Framed Roger Rabbit where Donald and Daffy Duck are both playing the same song on individual pianos while trying to kill each other? Yeah.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 13 points 6 months ago

And this is the real game of monopoly, of course.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

So when running a Linux desktop, what does one do to avoid these search engines? I use DuckDuckGo for the moment, but if love some alternatve that isnopen source too, self hosted if need be, and federated would be awesome

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Federated?

You're just throwing together FOSS buzzwords at this point.

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[–] hash0772@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Searx is pretty great, although I wouldn't recommend self-hosting it. Just use one of the public instances like Searx Belgium because it is harder to fingerprint you off of your searches since a lot of people also do their searches on the same instance.

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[–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The screenshot doesn't show it, but there's also an X in the top right of the screen.

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[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's honestly incredible that Bing even still exists, much less is still being actively being pushed by M$

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Bing is the default engine in Edge which is the default browser on Windows. There’s a huuuge demographic who doesn’t care enough to change either of those.

Also, Bing profits from other search engines using their results as a base. DuckDuckGo, for example, uses Bing as their primary source for search results. And in my experience is better at it than google, these days.

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[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Both currently are terrible.

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