The USA votes it's president in with the Electoral College. Every poll talking about "voters ... tie ... blah ....blah ...blah" doesn't mean shit, cause the voters don't get to pick the president. Their representatives do. And guess what, their representatives don't have to represent them. They can vote however they want. They can even get elected and then switch parties to the bad guys team. Also, fuck the GOP.
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Fun fact: As of 2023, the 2004 general election between Bush and Kerry is the only Presidential election since 1988 where Republicans have won the popular vote.
Yay for American democracy.
In 200 odd years there's been something like 1 case of a faithless elector. For all intents and purposes it's a filtered general vote. The electors just carry out their district/state's will.
That's not the issue so much as the "rounding" in the way electoral college votes are distributed. Plus states that do "winner take all". It has the effect of skewing the results away from being proportional to the popular vote.
Okay? That's not what they said though. They said elected representatives choose the president. That's just completely wrong in every sense but the most technical.
I was more replying to you, that it's the filtering I have issue with. I'm other words I agree that "faithless electors" is not really an issue rather my problem with the electoral system is that it's not a passthrough and does change the outcome.
Yeah. I'd love to see a system that represented people and not land. But we didn't keep up with the whole Constitutional Convention every 20 years thing. And the founders were dealing with 13 governments that had their own national egos. So they had to play to those governments instead of the actual people and now we're stuck with the system. The proportional representation pact is the current best shot. Followed by an amendment and then rolling the dice with a modern Constitutional Convention.
That would be true if electoral votes were proportional to states' populations. As it is now, your vote counts (I think) six times more if you live in Wyoming vs if you live in California.
I didn't say it was a good filter. Just pointed out that the people sent to the electoral college do not have any agency to select the president.
Millions of Americans apparently have the collective IQ of grey paint.
Is grey smarter than fuschia?
My grandpa used to warn me: most people just want to be told what to do, it's easier for them.
It's easy to vote for one person who says "I alone can fix this." Comforting.
Stupid, but ignorance is bliss.
Trump used that exact phrase. The dude can’t fix a toilet, let alone the US economy.
I wasn't paying close attention (because of utter revulsion), but I hear leftist podcasts talking about how the economy was in good shape pre-pan. For context, they talk about ways the orange asshole will leverage dem policies to smear Biden. I assume this is correct because I hear it as a talking point from multiple different podcasts. Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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Those millions of Americans have terrible opinions.
opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one.
... and some are full of shit.
The Roman Historian Sallust once said "Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master"
I remember posting that quote on Facebook once probably about 12 years ago. An older guy I worked with at the time chimed in that he was one of the few and how important liberty was to him.
Few years later he was spewing Trump bullshit.
True freedom and liberty are outright terrifying to most people, because we’d do a shit job at being in-charge of our own destinies.
It's to be expected for Christians (et al); a vast majority have been taught at a young age that the perfect society is one where a benevolent god makes all the decisions and you just shut up and do as you're told. It was never The People's Republic of Heaven; it's the Kingdom of Heaven.
It was never The People’s Republic of Heaven; it’s the Kingdom of Heaven.
a people's republic might be worse (ex: prc), make it a republic of heaven
They would practice not voting then
ah, but they're all registered to vote & they like voting.
That's because they all think they are the special individual that will be given special treatment and that all the bad things will happen to groups they don't like.
Because they are stupid.
That's why we got the famous direct quote: "He's not hurting the right ones".
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Rather than exist in a society where members of all ethnic groups have an opportunity for success, millions of American whites would approve of a dictatorship.
Ten million would restore Donald Trump to the presidency by force.
Recent polls show that Biden and Trump are tied in the presidential race even though Trump said he would suspend parts of the Constitution and construct an all-powerful executive branch with him as the head.
Ain't it funny, those obsessed with freedom are willing to let someone control them if it means they "win"
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Millions of Americans don't understand the difference between a computer virus and a biological virus. Dumb people want dumb things.
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Can we just give it to them then? We make them live under a brutally oppressive dictatorship with reduced rights, while the rest of us continue to participate in a democracy? We separate them out from society, put them into camps. They could have their own gestapo-esque police force that only had jurisdiction over them. We could even make Trump the head of that police force, but give him no real power outside of the camps, they’d just all live in isolation from the outside world, like Jim Jones or the Branch Dravidians.
The thing is they don't want that for themselves, they want that for everyone else. The republican mentality has become freedom for me and not for you because they hate being told what to do but love telling others what they can and cannot do.
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America was founded as a dictatorship of Whiteness, but when Obama got elected they realized their power was under threat and became fascists.
I grow strong with each triggered conservative that downvotes this comment. Also, dope username
I will add that I don’t think that was a conscious reaction. We’ve decades of data showing that “overt” racism has been consistently declining, while “covert” racism has taken its place. That’s why you don’t see people saying “Obama was a bad president because he was black,” but they’ll complain about a tan suit.
Millions of Americans are stupid and don’t know how to use their brain. These are the same idiots who drive around town in a truck flailing a trump flag. These are the same morons that drive a Tesla because they think Elon is awesome.
Ya I don’t listen to those people.
I remember when there wasn’t significant overlap between the former and the latter. Fun times, those.
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What the actual fuck is the article even?
It actually refers to “the white controlled media”
Get this stupid opinion/ racist shit out of here and make a community that aligns with your agenda
Seriously, I had to scroll down this far to find this? Their evidence is that millions of people support Trump, and Trump wants to be a dictator, ergo millions of people want a dictatorship. Sorry, not people: "whites".
So first, fuck Donald Trump. But while he's certainly said some wild shit, and I do believe that in his heart he would love to be a dictator, I'm pretty sure he's never said anything out loud like "I want to be a dictator". I'm sure a certain number of his fans would be happy to have him as Dear Leader, but most of them want him as President. And, just as many while people voted against Trump as for him, and a significant percentage of the country can't stand the fucker.
Meanwhile, Trump has been growing more popular with non-whites.
This article reads like a hit piece on "white people" by a 14-year-old.
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