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Moscow says it will keep pushing its offensive in Ukraine, though NATO doubts Russia has the resources to make a significant breakthrough.

NATO’s top military officer has said Russia’s armed forces are incapable of any major advance.

“The Russians don’t have the numbers necessary to do a strategic breakthrough,” NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe Christopher Cavoli told reporters on Thursday.

“More to the point, they don’t have the skill and the capability to do it; to operate at the scale necessary to exploit any breakthrough to strategic advantage,” the general said.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 102 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I really hope this is true. The delay in US funding gave a huge advantage to Russia

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 87 points 5 months ago (7 children)

It was a straight-up Republican gift to Vladimir Putin. Fuck these cowards...

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[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They could still hold onto the land and Ukrainian population they've taken so far. Anything less than Ukraine regaining Crimea and the rest of its territory will not only be a loss for them, but would tell the Russian government that the West would rather appease them than let allow a conflict to escalate further. Appeasement didn't work on Hitler, and it won't work on Putin either.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Considering after two years of a Military Operation that was supposed to last weeks, they are now putting someone in to put them into a "wartime economy footing" I expect them to eventually either lose or have all of Ukraine. There really doesn't seem to be middle ground for Putin.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Okay not that I'm insinuating that this is the same circumstance, but the last time a certain nation said this, it eventually backfired.

Putin's plan to capture Ukraine failed miserably, but Russia still has a significant fighting force and time to keep drawing this war out as long as they want.

Ukraine's former general emphasized their own losses and said it was critical that Ukraine train more troops and acquire supplies quickly.

They can't afford to stock on latest greatest weapons which is why they've been overly reliant on donations of old and surplus tech, especially vehicles.

NATO, ie mostly the USA, has failed to supply Ukraine with any significant stock of modern muntions that would give them an edge against Russia. It's been two years and they still don't have base block F-16s which would absolutely have helped during the early stages of the war.

Russia can keep the war machine going, slowly rearm, and try again, which could prove detrimental for Ukraine. They need to be decisively defeated in order for Ukraine to succeed.

For Ukraine's sake, I really hope someone diposes Putin in a coup, considering how much of a wreck he made.

[–] CopernicusQwark@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Both can be true: Russia can lack numbers to make a strategic breakthrough, and Ukraine can simultaneously not be able to field enough materiel to be able to recapture their losses.

IMO the most likely outcome is a stalemate that turns into de jure conquest of the territory Russia has captured and it turns into a cold (or at least cooler) war.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You mean de facto conquest, right? And why would either side stop shooting?

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then why the fuck did they send so many troops to Libya?!

I guess I shouldn't complain too hard, you never want to correct an enemy when they're making a mistake.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 12 points 5 months ago

Because they have strategic interests across the globe. From the Russian perspective, taking control of Ukraine would be great, but preventing them from intefrating into the EU and NATO is the real focus. Ukraine can't take back the occupied lands, and Russia will be able to l outlast Ukraine in an attritional war.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

Great, let the Russians break their backs over this.

I'd like to see their military capabilities in traction for a while.

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