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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 47 points 5 months ago (3 children)

gonna teach them by playing monopoly properly

[–] greentreerainfire@kbin.social 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

You can teach them properly about capitalism by making them follow the rules to the letter and following slightly relaxed rules for yourself, such as starting with extra cash and the ability to take out interest-free loans on you properties while still collecting rent, and reducing the costs for you to buy houses and hotels because you can leverage market forces in you favor.

New chance cards only you could get would include:

You busted a union, collect $100

Shorted stocks and left everyone else holding the bag, collect $25 from each player

Caught Insider trading, pay $1 or go to jail until your next turn

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The original game that Monopoly is based on (The Landlord's Game) was a tool for teaching how bad landlords and owning land privately and permanently is. Monopoly is still a great tool to show how an early advantage leads to an ever-growing monopoly that will inevitably crush all the other players with no modifications necessary.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Exactly this. If you want to rig the game, just give one player a bunch more money than anyone else and watch how the natural game unfolds.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you want to simulate Capitalism with the Monopoly game, you need to start with:

  • All the land is already owned and randomly developed.
  • Not everybody starts with the same conditions: you have 3 classes of player, "high" getting a large amount of money and a share of the land already occupied, the "medium" getting a small amount of money and no land, the "low" starting with no money and no land. You can randomize who gets which class.

That only one of those who starts as a "high" class player has any chance to win and the game is no fun for the rest is part of the lesson.

[–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's the only way to play if you don't want the game to last for three days.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

It's not the only way to play. The original version -- "The Landlord's Game" -- had an entire second "Prosperity" ruleset that Parker Brothers didn't want you to know about.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

That wold be cruel.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

For every 10 full size snickers you collect, I give you one loose m&m.

I also put a couple of your siblings up for adoption right before Halloween to let you know you're expendable.

If it bothers you, you can always go talk to your mom, who empathises, so that you feel good enough to get back to collecting ~~my~~ our candy. But she will immediately come tell me everything you said.

You ungrateful worm... After all I've done for you?

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Did you mean to say that the mom is empathetic? Because emphasising has a different meaning.

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[–] Akareth@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

You forgot to take away 1/3 of the loose M&M after giving it to them.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Additionally, if your bucket handle breaks, you need third party software and hardware to create a matching digital signature to replace the handle.

[–] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If your bucket does not have an internet connection, it has no bottom. It is merely a tube.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why does this frighten me to the core. A donut is a tube, it makes sense but I hate this knowledge

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"Sorry son, little Johnny across the street is willing to go trick or treating for only two pieces of candy per hour, so I'm taking him instead."

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago

Based. Also teach em to share the buckets so they can distribute the candy democratically.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is like the level of the boomer meme about teaching kids about taxes.

[–] fd_nomad@feddit.de 16 points 5 months ago

I think it's meant to be a parody on the boomer anti-socialism meme

[–] sibannac@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

The cycle remains unbroken.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you only get to trick or treat on the property you own

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

libertarian Halloween is shit!

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And the candy is all homemade from raw ingredients made in unregulated factories...

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[–] ares35@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago

mom always got her 'cut'....

as payment for driving us across town to the 'good' neighborhoods.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (30 children)

Will you pay them to collect the candy too?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 44 points 5 months ago

Sure. Out of the 50 pieces gathered by 5 children, each will recieve 1. The owner of the bucket needs to be compensated for their risk, after all!

[–] greentreerainfire@kbin.social 31 points 5 months ago

You collected 36 pieces of candy.
Coincidentally due to forces beyond my control your rent this month is 35 pieces of candy. You understand I’ve got bills to pay too, right?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

of course. They will recieve 30% of the candy the collect as payment

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

What a generous rate! And a great way to ease them into the shock that the real rate is much, much worse

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago

Well, lets see, I make my company about 3 orders of magnitude more money than they pay me every year, so I suppose if my kids gather 1000 pieces of candy, I'll give one back to them as payment.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

That'll be 50 snickers bars please

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Kids will start using their pillow case

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

If they learn anything, it's to shove some rocks in the pillow case and beat their dad with it until they get to keep all the candy they collect.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

"Nobody wants to work on collecting candy anymore!"

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