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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Things the mainstream media stopped being able to do:

- sell ads

- their job

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

Nah, they still do their job of pushing whatever agenda money demands them to.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Almost exclusively billionaires, hectomillionaires, and their corporations.

I know you were being rhetorical, but just in case anyone wasn't aware 😉

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

That, and I was specifically thinking about Big Oil's investment in the media, between holding shares and spending billions on advertising.

Even if they don't literally own the media, they own the media.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Sheldon adelson.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

They don't want to show he is stupid enough to do the same fucking thing he was already impeached for

[–] mibo80@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I don't get the blame for "journalists" here. These are media outlets run by big corpos who knows they'll control the narrative. Can we uplift quality journalism that is also not filled with bought and paid for journalists and media. If you don't like CNN stop listening to it 25/8. Same for Fox, et al. The complaints about the media sound like boomer ramblings but I seem to hear it most often from millennials. Like, who the fuck else you relying on to know what's going on in the world?

[–] credo@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you don’t like CNN stop listening to it 25/8. Same for Fox, et al.

I’m sorry, did you think the people complaining about corporate media are actually watching it? Like they don’t understand they don’t have to? That’s not the issue at all and I’m not sure why you think it is. People complain because naive people watch it. People with malleable, unscientific, unquestioning minds. People who listen to those channels for the echo chamber and sense of validation it provides them.

No one would care except, their votes count too.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

If you don't like radiation, just don't gaze upon the elephant's foot! Jeez, can't a guy eat his star shaped pickles in peace?

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

I heard a great quote about how pre 1980, there were close to 1,000 credible independent sources for news reporting. By the 90s, it was closer to 100. And now, just a handful of entities control the entire narrative.

I think the criticism is valid considering a room full of people outnumbers the forces behind mainstream media.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Can we uplift quality journalism that is also not filled with bought and paid for journalists and media.

Sure. A good start for you would be to not rag on Common Dreams, one of the best independent outlets, for calling out those that ARE bought and paid for.

The complaints about the media sound like boomer ramblings

Or, you know, journalists with integrity holding corporate shills masquerading as journalists accountable..

I seem to hear it most often from millennials

Because we're the first generation to become adults in a world where there are completely viable alternatives readily available, such as Common Dreams. Also, did you mean "millennials" or Gen Z? Maybe both? Because if anything, Gen Z is MORE critical of the billionaire-owned media than we are.

Sincerely, elder millennial, 41.

Like, who the fuck else you relying on to know what's going on in the world

More reliable sources, such as Common Dreams, The Nation, The Intercept, sometimes The Guardian (though how reliable they are varies subject by subject)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like, who the fuck else you relying on to know what’s going on in the world?

NPR and PBS.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's no wonder American Evil has been trying to get rid of NPR and PBS for years.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. And it depresses me that people like the person above ask the question they do without NPR and PBS even being in their mind.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

but you can't get your Two Minutes Hate from either of them.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can we uplift quality journalism that is also not filled with bought and paid for journalists and media.

The problem is that even completely independent journalists that take no ad revenue run into the issue of being captured by their audience.

If an independent journalist doesn't have a diverse audience, then anything that doesn't confirm that non-diverse audience's biases will face backlash, essentially repeating the issue of journalist's leaning on their careers instead of truth, but the enforcement mechanism is based around viewership/donation numbers and not corporate money.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

Trump: I want to Jail Journalists!

Journalists: Ok! We support that!

This is just nuts. Absolutely bonkers.

How is it possible that the voting public could just overlook this.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of course they did Murdoch owns them all

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I mean that’s objectively untrue?