Personally, as a fellow Jewish leftist I’d advise against moving to Israel. If you think politics are toxic here (maybe I’m reading into what you mean by things driving you insane), Israel is much worse. I’m not sure which countries have the easiest visa process but you probably have some flexibility as an RN. You could look into a travel nurse job that lets you move across Europe and try a few different places out.
this post was submitted on 10 May 2024
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By driving me insane, I was in fact referring to the rightward drift of the US. And I don't just mean Trump, but the entire GOP and the fact the only opposition to them is the limp centrist Democratic Party. So yeah, Israel is probably much worse post 10/7.
Europe would be cool, Germany especially though I've heard its less safe now.
Israeli politics have been fucked for a long time. Netanyahu has always been a dangerous extremist, and the fact that people repeatedly voted for him speaks volumes for the political culture.
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In Germany nurses are often not well payd IMO, but there are different kinds of nurses, so idk.. there are strikes in the news from time to time. ... but at least it's okay and well accepted to strike in Germany
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I'm a nurse in germany. From what I hear from colleagues who studied/worked abroad, the job is very different in Germany than most other countries. (I haven't met anyone who worked in the US.) Mostly, nursing in germany involves a lot less medical tasks, which are reserved for doctors. In turn you'll do a lot more bedside care.
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If you’re concerned about a rightward drift, you’re not going to like many places in Europe. I also wouldn’t leave a country because of a temporary political shift. America’s left is more powerful now than it’s been in close to 100 years and it’s only growing with the next generation. If politics is the main reason you want to leave, I’d seriously encourage you to rethink things. That seems very shortsighted, especially given the political tide in Europe.
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Germany/Austria/Switzerland. You absolutely need to learn German though. It’s not unsafe here, but the right shift is happening all across Europe right now.
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There are right wing populists in virtually every democracy these days. It's not an issue unique to the US. I think it's a byproduct of our times. Economic uncertainty + geopolitical tensions and war = hard shift to the right.
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Check out the Scandinavian countries, all of them blow away the rest of Europe and they are looking for medical professionals.
Norway especially looks attractive, especially with its strong left parties.
Can confirm.
Source: I'm a noggie and my sister in law is a nurse, and I get the impression they're always short staffed.
Nice, I guess I gotta learn Norwegian now.
Nah. "Everyone" here speaks english.
Actually, as a nurse I guess it makes sense - The few that don't are seniors.
As a native speaker I'm probably very biased, but I'm pretty sure norwegian is among the easier languages to learn. Just be aware of the WIDE variety of dialects - Some of them differ more than Norwegian and Swedish do.
Oh well in that case, then I really am considering Norway. Full disclosure: I'm a communist so one reason I'd move there is the fact it has communist parties (or at least one Im aware of) in their parliament.
Are you what Americans consider a communist or an actual one? Cause in Europe you will find that what Americans consider far left in politics is actually right of center still.
I'm an actual Communist.
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If you don’t want to move far and want a similar but more centrist culture, you could move to Canada — this would make it easy to move back in the future if you want. And unlike many Americans, as a RN, you could actually move without much difficulty. I know a number of RNs who have made the move and are happy about it.
Canada is high on my list
Healthcare is kind of in a situation in many parts of Canada now. Look into the situation in each of the provinces you're considering. (Healthcare is run at the provincial level, not federal)
I'm not in healthcare, but I'm trying to stay politically aware.
We'd love to have you. I just want you to be prepared with the best information.
As a person in technology, I envy you the chance to leverage a skill useful in the real world.
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Sorry if this seems lazy, but Canada has a decent population of Jews. Since you are a nurse, you have a better chance of getting in. Obviously there's a ton of paperwork involved, but might be worth looking into.
If you speak French, France might also be a good choice. Hella good worker's rights there.
Not to brag but I speak French, Hebrew and German alongside English.
Yeah I've heavily considered Canada though ironically it seems they're going to elect their own Trump and might become more like the US. Still, I'm seriously considering it.
Not a brag, your languages very relevant to finding a new place to live.
I wish good folks would stay and fight. But at the same time, I don't blame anyone for leaving.
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Germany is desperate for nurses, currently. Just a heads-up though: Whether you'll feel welcomed here sadly still depends on your skin color! And most Jews don't show their heritage and faith publicly, again sadly for good reason.
Working in healthcare --> always consider Norway, because they pay good and their system is well funded. That's so much more than you can say about most other countries.
Canada is a pretty good market for nurses.
I guess I can become a Canadian of convenience :P
I'm also an American who moved to Canada - I did that because my wife lives up here but I've found it an extremely welcoming culture.
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Good luck! Not only is it's expensive to do this, it will also take years.
If you manage to get it all figured out, please do not forget to update us all here!
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Ireland. English speaking, need nurses, Americans move here handy enough. Your faith wont matter.
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