Completely embarrassing... for anyone who talks about how legacy automakers are "catching up" to Tesla
this post was submitted on 10 May 2024
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Tesla are miles ahead right now. But with all the legacy cars on the road, they should in theory be able to harness the data and catch up soon. In an ideal world though, their would be an open source system available that we could use for busses, taxis and even ambulances.
Is there a sublemmy for autonomous vehicle technology yet?
You inspired me to go and look and it seems like there's a few
Would you be interested in trying to grow any of these? None of the moderators seem to be active.
I might prefer to avoid ml for political reasons, though. Are you able to get the kbin posts to federate to your instance? I subscribed to it, but don't see any posts on my instance yet.
Another option would be to create a new community, perhaps with a more general name like c/autonomousvehicles or c/autos. Thoughts?
Let me try and find two dedicated news sources to add to my RSS aggregator, as without a steady influx of new posts, any new community will just stagnate.
As for where it's hosted, I don't mind ml at all, in fact all of my interactions with the developers and moderators have been favourable. That said, there's probably more appropriate instances for such a community. As long as it's not on world (just because I don't like Lemmy being centralised), I don't mind where it is.
This comparison doesn’t make any sense, why bother?
EDIT: actually quite interesting in how bad the Mercedes lane keeping is even though with a Level 2 automation should do better. Misleading title and video beginning, because Consumer Reports evaluated Autopilot and not FSD.
How not?
MB Driver Assist could be compared with Tesla Autopilot. FSD does obviously much more in that is a “Level 3 beta”, albeit always level 2 because of its development stage. The yet to be released Drive Pilot from Mercedes - the Level 3 automated driving system - could be compared with Tesla FSD, that is a comparison I would gladly see!
Btw, the start of the video on the consumer report evaluation is about Driver Assist and Autopilot. The car in the video then runs FSD.
I feel like you're jumping through hoops to shoot Mercedes bail here. The system in this car was rated higher than the Tesla and the reality is that it's not even in the same league.
I just care about proper and honest reporting. I’d have a Tesla any day over a Mercedes, for many reasons, but bashing systems based on the wrong assumptions is wrong. They are showing a line keeping assistant that requires steer control at all times (Merc) and a system that aims to be unsupervised - only that it should supervise and doesn’t do it properly, hence the lower score in many tests and the federal investigations in the USA.
What's steer control and why does it need it if it's supposed to keep lines? I'm genuinely confused here. You're saying the Mercedes system shouldn't be rated because they have another Mercedes system? Even though they're in a car rated as being SAE level 3?
You got me here, wasn’t even aware that the Mercedes system is officially a level 2 with Steer Control that is supposed to do much better than seen in the video. I still think they should have compared with the more basic Autopilot, though, as this is what consumer report evaluated and the safety problems of Tesla’s lack of driver monitoring are there.
I edit my first comment according to what I learned through the discussion :)
Also my bad, just corrected myself. The Mercedes is supposed to be level 3 whereas the Tesla is supposed to be level 2.
No I think the level 3 is only available in selected countries, roads and speeds. It’s called Drive Pilot and it’s not the one they are using in the video.
Aha, that would make sense. Though that's as bad as Tesla being allowed to call theirs Full Self Driving