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Govt paying vaccine injuries (tnc.news)

submitted 6 months ago by uzi@lemmy.ca to c/britishcolumbia@lemmy.ca

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If the federal government has been obligated to pay out and reimburse people who were severely injured or damaged from vaccines, why should be get any injections?

https://tnc.news/2024/04/30/only-6-of-vaccine-injury-claimants-paid/

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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 6 months ago

WHY SHOULD BE GET? ANSER MY!

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Injection injuries are exceedingly rare. And, because there is a great benefit to everyone around us, we want to ensure that anything that is unpredictable is adequately reimbursed and supported. Nothing we do in medicine is without risks. The damage done to individuals and society as a whole is greater by not developing hurd immunity through Injections.

Welcome to public health. Humans are incredibly bad at understanding risk off the top of the head. That’s why we’ve developed methods and statistics to try and understand what is best practice.

[+] uzi@lemmy.ca -12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If there is a great benefit to all people by getting injected without any disclosure of ingredients from companies making billions of dollars, how is there people who have never had an injection in their whole life still walking around and performing work duties without it?

If some people were killed and disabled by the injections, and others are doing fine with the injections, along with those who never got it were killed and others who have never had it are living successful lives, where is the benefit to getting it if people are living happily without it?

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You are officially arguing in bad faith. You don’t understand anything about public heath and nothing about immunity or immunology. You have made declarative statements without proof.

I was first giving you the benefit of the doubt…

[+] uzi@lemmy.ca -8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There's the option of listening to practicing virologists give presentations with a breakdown of why nobody needs the covid vaccine because it is not a vaccine and has nothing in common what was previously labelled as a vaccine before covid. It was only created so billonaires could sell the injections for their companies to make even more billions of dollars.

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Brandolini's law in practice.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Thank you for this, never heard of it until now.

The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Big pharma bad" means everything they ever do must be an evil conspiracy! The concesus among the millions of physicians and medical researchers of the world means they are all in on it too!

[–] towerful@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because that's how a society functions, and that's how vaccines work.
When a vaccine is effective against a pandemic, it prevents it from spreading. If there are not enough places for the virus to live, or it can't get to a new place to continue living... it dies out.
There is a tipping point where enough people have been vaccinated that the virus can't proliferate... which means people at risk from rare side effects of vaccination don't have to be vaccinated.
People have undiagnosed health issues and end up in hospital from roller coasters or from tying their shoes.

Like how deforestation drives species to extinction. There are still forests around, but the species that go extinct can't get to another forest and end up dying.
Except vaccination has the positive effect of saving lives, whereas deforestation just ruins ecologies.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised it's as high as 6%. I would have expected anti-vaxxers to flood programs like this with bogus claims well more than 94% of all claims.

Major complications from vaccines are exceptionally rare. It's not at all surprising that there are very few successful claims that it's happened. It doesn't happen much.

Compared with the loss of life and livelihood from acute and long COVID, a tiny chance of vaccine side effects are an easy price to pay. For every 1 person injured by a vaccine, hundreds or thousands are prevented from catching disease with long-term symptoms.

Smallpox is extinct because of vaccines, and polio was on the brink of extinction before COVID messed up vaccine distribution programs.

[–] uzi@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 months ago

Given your unwavering blind faith in injections, it sounds like vaccines is your new religion to which you have sworn your allegiance, all hail the power of vaccines from billionaire corporations!

Death from a illness or a virus is not the worst thing that can happen to a person, there are worse things than dying. People must accept the fact that noi matter what they do they are going die, it's only a question of when death is coming for you and no person can ever escape it. There are still bigger and more important concerns in life than dying.