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[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 126 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The story takes place in Britain and the vast majority of the characters barely, if at all, know what Football(aka Soccer) is. Mr. Weasley the muggle "expert" doesn't know what a rubber duck is for. They're not gonna know shit about some American muggle sport.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 57 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The fact that the wizarding world is able to be this aloof about 99% of the population they live amongst is incredible. In a real world that would be due to a tireless cadre of extremely knowledgable and capable wizards working to keep them separate. Unfortunately the fact that some hack like Voldie could make such a mess of things so easily kinda disproves that. Therefore the wizarding world is the luckiest bunch of idiots ever.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 23 points 7 months ago

The story takes place in Britain. What the fuck even is a chicago bull?!

[–] Heavybell@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or they see themselves as a superpower that is above needing to learn about others, perhaps?

(I didn't read the books so if this is obviously wrong I'm sorry)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

No that's pretty much it, there's even a subplot where Muggle Studies is an elective at Hogwarts, but only Hermonie wants to take it.... and it's solely so she can dunk on Wizards not knowing shit about Muggles while getting an Easy A

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is why I only liked the earlier Harry Potter books, the setting is clearly just not built to be taken seriously... so Goblet of Fire and onward demanding as such just fails.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You hit the nail on the head. It's sort of like Doctor Who in the sense that it asks of you, "don't look at any of this stuff too closely, just enjoy the ride." Unfortunately for Harry Potter the structure of the story eventually required a bit more seriousness and the world can't provide it very well.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah. The series loses a lot when whimsy isn't the driving theme.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You should read Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality. I don't want to spoil anything but it is so good. Honestly, book stores should stop selling the official Harry Potter books and just stock HPMOR.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I actually did forever ago. It was pretty good. Harry is too smart and way too smug for me but I did really like voldie's plan and how they dealt with him. I wonder if that would work in the actual books. It kinda seems like it from book 2.

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[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 3 points 7 months ago

If you like HPMOR and you're a D&D player, you should read Harry Potter and the Natural 20.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago

The Statute of Secrecy people might've been tasked to investigate one "Magic Johnson."

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 15 points 7 months ago
[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago

An extremely american centric joke

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And the Chicago Bulls are a basketball team... so there's no chance they'd know what that is, despite Quidditch being essentially soccer + basketball...

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Yup.

The Bulls aren't a Quidditch team.

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[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 62 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Being that it was set in England no, they wouldn't have.

[–] ConditionOverload@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Michael Jordan in the 90s was a worldwide phenomenon. I can totally believe it if they mentioned him. I'm from India originally and even we knew who he was in the 90s.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, people don't really get the fame he had. Michael Jordan is the reason Gatorade is a big brand. He's the main reason people wear athlete branded shoes and gear.

People below are proving your point. "I just know that he played basketball." This dude has been retired for 2 decades and people who don't care about basketball still know who he is. That's huge.

[–] ConditionOverload@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Yeah exactly. He MADE Nike and Gatorade and athletic clothing popular. Dude made the NBA and basketball a globally popular market. He was way more than just an athlete.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Gatorade is such a big brand, I have never seen it once in any of the Belgian stores.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Maybe you guys would win at basketball more if you had it? Be like Mike.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i know he is a basketball person. thats about it

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yea and I only know that thanks to Spacejam.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah but you do know of him.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I grew up in the 90s in England, and we didn't give a toss about basketball. Still don't.

Michael Jordan was the guy in Space Jam with the expensive trainers that a couple of spoiled kids had. We were aware of his existence, but that was it.

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[–] Easyreever@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Should have said Manchester United then….

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 46 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The "design" of Quidditch is proof Rowling didn't know anything about sports.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

It's proof she's a horrible writer, she wants a scene to make Harry look good in front of his classmates... So she invents a sport that conveniently has a role where the focus can be on one person and that one thing this one person does is just magically more important than anything anyone else does.... It creates two things, Harry's image as a Gary Stu and the world's most pointless fucking sport.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Michal@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

It's not instawin, you can catch it and still lose

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought Quidditch was her attempt at satirizing how arbitrary she thought real-world sports are, but maybe that's giving her too much credit

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[–] CuriousRefugee@lemmy.ml 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, yeah, sports, cell phones, computers, etc. But I still cannot believe that none of the muggleborns brought a damn ballpoint pen to Hogwarts. It would blow the mind of those crazy wizards still using quills. "Weasley Wizard's Wheezes proudly presents the new quill that writes without an inkwell!"

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

The wizarding world seems really conservative. They might know of them but just scoff at such modern ridiculousness.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Harry Potter is based in Britain, so it's an absolute travesty that no one is singing Three Lions, or talking about the absolute dicking that Gazza gave the Scots.

Also no mention of Bucky. It's almost as if they're not really in Scotland, and that it's all fictional.

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A truly amazing sight: an average Twitter resident discovers that countries outside of the US exist

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

A truly amazing sight: An average Lemmy user discovers that they can't tell when someone on Twitter is making an obvious joke

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Its just a bad joke since HP is not set in america so the joke doesnt even make sense

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

I guess an average Lemmy user can't tell when someone on Lemmy is making an obvious joke either

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

Man, the Chudley Cannons are terrible this decade.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

It’s a bunch of nerds and magic geeks. They would think about sports about as much as I did in the 90s, and if anyone asked me whether the Chicago Bulls had an epic run I’d say uh… what? I don’t know.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This comment is giving me Mr. Enter vibes, for those who don't know, he's a Youtuber infamous for claiming "Turning Red" sucks because it didn't randomly drop the Red Panda premise in order to focus on the (Literally not American....) characters reacting to 9/11.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Was the way Mr. Enter framed the video a joke?

Because this is a joke.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately no, he was completely serious, though people did meme on his take a lot. - https://youtu.be/BhRD2lgNSJE

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