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Qualcomm quietly demos Baldur’s Gate 3 and Control on Snapdragon X Elite laptops (www.theverge.com)

submitted 7 months ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Qualcomm quietly demos Baldur’s Gate 3 and Control on Snapdragon X Elite laptops

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[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I've heard that even AMD are internally working on ARM-based desings, but that's just a rumor maybe

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would be surprised if they didn't. They must see where the tide is turning.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

To be fair, x86 was held back a long while when intel was the dominant market force without competition. And arm is starting to stagnate too, even apple have not meaningfully improved their arm-based cpus since the m1

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Doesn't surprise me. AMD had internally designed ARM CPUs years ago with Jim Keller.

This was when AMD was facing bankruptcy, though. Cutbacks had to be made, and ARM was one of them. They focused on Zen instead.

Now that they have money I'm not surprised at all they're giving it another swing.

[–] rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago

I'll give a kidney for AMD ARM laptops.

[–] Andrenikous@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Long as I can still play my steam library on a Linux arm pc I’ll be happy.

[–] romp_2_door@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you've heard where?

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

Not op, but: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23929240/nvidia-amd-cpu-arm-pc-chips-2025-release-rumors

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whats ARM? And how does it replace a GPU?

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

ARM is not a GPU-architecture, but a competitor to x86, which is what intel and AMD are basing their CPUs on. Through a very confusing web of patents and deals, only those two corporations are able to use it. ARM was developed to be slimmer than x86, but only recently cought up in performance, while retaining an advantage in efficiency. They're not compatible with each other though, which is why apple had to create an emulation layer for x86 software when they switched from intel to arm for their cpus. Microsoft will (and have) need to do the same thing, but it's not clear yet what performance will look like for things like gaming. Microsoft largely want to make windows on arm a thing for battery life and so that they can create their own processors.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How does x64 architecture play in this? I that x86 was out dated and not used. Something about fat32 and ntfs hard drives? Man I know so little of computers even thought I've been tinkering with them most of my life.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

AMD-64 is an upgrade to x86 that allows it to work with (I think) 64 Bit lntegers. The most obvious consequence is the jump from being able to use 4GB of RAM to whatever absurd number 64Bit are able to handle

[+] phoneymouse@lemmy.world -73 points 7 months ago (5 children)

World follows Apple’s lead again, but go ahead Lemmy, complain some more about how Apple is the reason your life is miserable.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What a weird thing to say out of nowhere.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

Persecution complex is a helluva drug

[–] Dark_Arc@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Apple didn't invent the ARM laptop

[+] phoneymouse@lemmy.world -41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

No one was interested in an ARM laptop until Apple launched M1.

Edit: downvotes don’t make you right.

[–] Dark_Arc@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I had a buddy who was a Linux ARM laptop fanatic back in like 2014. Microsoft had been trying to make Windows on ARM a thing for years before that.

Apple was the first to popularize it but it's been a work in progress if you've been paying attention for a LOT longer. What helped Apple is all the work they did on their own ARM chips for iOS. They managed to get pretty close to x86 performance in an ARM chip. They also had an app store of apps that could run on them and an emulator for things that wouldn't.

Every time Microsoft tried nobody would release ARM builds... People just bought the x86 laptops. It's the same chicken and egg problem desktop Linux has had for years.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Haha 😂 HEY GUYS PLEASE NOTICE ME vibes all up in here. No notes; perfect.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine mistaking huge marketing & takeover budget for innovation.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's just Windows holding back the industry again. X86 could be long gone if MacOS and Linux would be most popular.

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Windows runs on ARM just fine, it’s the legacy apps that are holding the industry back. Just like some institutions are still running AS/400 machines because nobody can port the programs they’re using.

[–] vanderbilt@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I blame MS because they have repeatedly failed to light a big enough fire under app devs to get them to migrate to modern APIs and write more arch agnostic code, nor have they provided the tooling to get it done. Why isn't the default on every MS compiler for Windows to produce fat binaries for x86 and ARM? That alone would help adoption greatly.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYBtcspS7Pw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaQ9B6IGIjg

[–] le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

i see the downvote but you got to admit companies tend to follow whatever apple decides to do. Remember how we used to have headphone jack before apple removed it ? remember the numerous android phone with a big notch (pixel was the winner here) after iphone switched to faceid ? Remember the focus on privacy from google after apple made it's pop up about not being tracked between apps ? I probably forgot others, but whatever succesfull (or not) apple does, other companies follow. always has been.

M1 arm macbook have been a quite a hit for apple, very successfull. Guess what, it probably pushed competition to make their own, but they couldn't because who the hell can make their own processor and then force almost the entire developper on their operating system to write software for it ? Even if we get arm windows laptop, good luck getting most of your software to run on arm. You'd be lucky to even get big ones like photoshop. everything will be run through translation layer, will sucks performance and battery.