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I hate Facebook but realized I can't uninstall the bloatware Messenger app from my phone since I actually need it for Facebook Marketplace (I usually use it for selling second-hand stuff and looking for other products/services). Also I have plenty of friends there and it might be good to reconnect with some without dealing with the spyware Meta shit.

Also something for WhatsApp would be good as well

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[–] barryamelton@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fun fact, FB Messenger used to be based on the federated network XMPP. The same way that Google Messages was.

Both Google and Facebook made sure to Embrace Extended Extinguish XMPP. I was there. At some point I could talk from my Gnome contacts to both, it was incredible.

Don't forget that. Don't federate with Threads. There's no room for corporations in the fediverse.

[–] leninmummy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Basically, FB Messenger used to be based

[–] sheinar@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

SlimSocial is the only one that I've found that still works, though might require some messing with the settings to get Messenger working through it.

Matrix bridges are an option for those willing to put the effort in and self-host. I might get round to doing this at some point.

It's not open-source, but I've settled on Beeper for the time being as the simplest option to get all my messages in one place.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Look into Matrix bridges. If you can’t, or don’t want to do all that, check out Beeper. Small monthly fee, but you’re paying someone else to setup and maintain all of it for you.

[–] graphito@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] chebra@mstdn.io 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@graphito

wait what?

https://github.com/beeper/self-host

> Beeper Clients

> Native iOS and Android clients (closed source forks of Element iOS and Android)
Mac OS, Windows and Linux clients (closed source forks of Element Web/Desktop)

How can an Apache-2.0 licensed project be forked as closed source?

[–] graphito@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they agreed on different license (paid for it) with element directly

[–] chebra@mstdn.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@graphito

that would be stealing the code from all of the other contributors. I don't see any signoff to allow them to double-license these contributions.

[–] graphito@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] chebra@mstdn.io 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@graphito

emphasis on *their*

Other contributors are sending their code under this agreement https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/blob/develop/CONTRIBUTING.md#sign-off

[–] graphito@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

That's great that you spent some time researching this -- good job, I didn't know about this caveat, thank you for informing me. However, I have no affiliation with the company and recommend to ask about this issue from Beeper team directly.

[–] kraxyk@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A while back I used to use Frost on Android. At the time it supported all aspects of Facebook including the marketplace and messenger

[–] FlanFlinger@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sadly it no longer supports messenger, and is a bit flaky on some links.

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know desktop has caprine. Maybe it has a mobile port?

[–] jammy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 1 year ago

Whoa, I didn't know about this, but this looks cool!