Okay but you SHOULD be doing something about the fucking cartels...speaking as a Mexican American
this post was submitted on 23 Mar 2024
196 points (85.0% liked)
World News
38969 readers
2951 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Sounds like they are. They're going to let America fight its drug war in America.
They're not though, they have constantly capitulated to the cartels over the last few years and more. The cartels are literal terrorist scum and should be wiped the fuck out
Except it isn't that easy to just "wipe them out". It'd be like dealing with a very well armed, very large resistance movement and would probably start a civil war. Without support from somewhere (like the US) it would be political (and probably regular) suicide
with a lot of Chinese gangs helping them
And american institutions.
What's with OP's pro-Trump editorializing? How does this article possibly serve as a defense of Trump's fascist "America First" policies?
Mexico should legalize all drugs.
USA should legalize all drugs.
Everywhere should legalize all drugs.
Tax that shit and put the money into rehab and education. Prohibition has only ever benefited criminals.
Nah, decriminalise all drugs sure.
But shit like fentanyl, krokodil, etc. shouldn’t be actively promoted through ease of access.
Nobody is taking fentanyl or krokodil in world where uncut medical-grade opiates are available. Hell, even fentanyl can be dosed safely if it isn't coming from the unregulated black market.
Full legalization, full-stop. Drugs are so dangerous because we prohibit the existence of a safe, regulated market.
How the hell do you dose fentanyl safely outside of a clinical context? You cannot discern a lethal dose from a nonlethal dose with the naked eye.
Legalized doesn't mean unregulated, people went blind during prohibition due to dangerous moonshine but it's incredibly rare now as it's brought from licensed manufacturers.
Tbh it's even rare with moonshine now. Idk if it's just the internet making knowledge more widely accessible but now people know to throw out the methanol (or "foreshots") for blinding reasons, and if you want it to be good throw the heads and tails too.
It's a property of fentanyl itself. I'm saying that outside of a clinical context, you don't have the instrumentation necessary to dose it.
I'm suggesting reputable businesses could sell dosed mixtures just like they do in a clinical setting. A pill or solution with the appropriate amount.
What the hell part of "regulated" was so hard to understand?
You're ignoring the part where they said that no one would be taking fentanyl because other opiates would be available. It was literally the first sentence.
People don't typically take it recreationally on purpose; it's usually because a low level dealer cut the drug and added fentanyl to it.
There are people on the street nowadays who prefer rent over heroin. It sounds crazy to non addicts, but the high is better for less money and it might actually be safe for people to knowingly buy fent and attempt correct dosing themselves rather than dosing for heroin but having cent laced.
Like, shit, that is dark and evidence the drug war has failed.
With regulated doses, probably in pill form, like any other fucking drug? Obviously they wouldn't be selling pure fentanyl powder
The problem is, unless something is done about the cartels before hand, all that is going to do is legitimize them.
When your entire industry is illegal in almost all of the world, it suddenly becoming legal tends to hurt the black market very badly.
They should be granted amnesty in exchange for disarmament, among other things to drag them into legitimacy and abiding rule of law. It would have to be an undertaking comparable in scope to denazification post-WWII though.
Legalizing drugs doesn't mean there are no regulations. The FDA would have to control the quality of the drugs, and I bet the cartels don't exactly have quality control.
Cartels make an estimated $20-30 billion a year selling drugs to the U.S.
If the FDA regulates and we make our own, you just cut out all that money from them. Their influence goes down greatly. Also feeds the money back into our economy and the taxes on it can help us line our politicians pockets, oops I mean help fund healthcare
Yeah, but the comment I'm replying to specifically said mexico should legalize, that wouldn't change the us demand at all.
He said that, then put Trump first. What did he do for America besides racist rhetoric, a few miles of border wall that apparently doesn't work, and fast tracked a COVID vaccine you won't take?
Mexico cutting off its nose to spite its face.
I think it's gone under the radar for most people just how massive and powerful the cartels have gotten over the last 10 years, all aided by crypto. Now that they don't have to worry about trucking dollars over borders, they can basically operate like multinational corporations
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“Of course we are going to cooperate in fighting drugs, above all because it has become a very sensitive, very sad humanitarian issue, because a lot of young people are dying in the United States because of fentanyl,” the president said.
Asked about those comments at the time, residents of one town in the western Mexico state of Michoacan who have lived under drug cartel control for years reacted with disgust and disbelief.
López Obrador has also made a point of visiting the township of Badiraguato in Sinaloa state, the home of drug lords like Joaquín ‘El Chapo’ Guzman, at least a half dozen times, and pledging to do so again before he leaves office in September.
But it did note the U.S. Treasury Department announced sanctions Friday on a Sinaloa Cartel money-laundering network in which the proceeds of fentanyl sales were used to buy shipments of cell phones in the United States, which were then sold in Mexico.
John Kirby, spokesman for the White House National Security Council, credited “strong partnership with the government of Mexico, with which we coordinated closely and for which, we are grateful,” in investigating that case.
The cartels control increasingly large swathes of territory both in northern Mexico — their traditional base — and in southern states like Guerrero, Michoacan, Chiapas and Veracruz.
The original article contains 1,055 words, the summary contains 219 words. Saved 79%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!