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What do people think will be the fate of ryujinx? (lemm.ee)
submitted 7 months ago by flashgnash@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Seeing as Yuzu has been nintendo'd recently, what do people think will happen to ryujinx? Can Nintendo get them on the same grounds as Yuzu or would they need to come up with a new case against them?

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[โ€“] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 45 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There are many emulators for nintendo consoles. Very few are taken down by legal actions, because it is legal to develop an emulator. Hardware is functional and cannot be copyrighted.

Yuzu's problem was they supported piracy. They made special patches of the emulator to play leaked games which they sold through patreon. That's how you get sued for piracy.

Ryujinx does not allow discussions of piracy, commercial ROMs, or firmware on any of their own platforms. The emulator can play commercial games, but they only link to instructions on how to dump your own cartridges and firmware from legally purchased sources.

That is how smart developers protect themselves from lawsuits. It has worked for Dolphin, and many other emulators. Ryujinx will probably be just as safe.

[โ€“] flashgnash@lemm.ee 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ahhh right my understanding was that Yuzu were very anti piracy at least officially. I might have got it mixed up with ryujinx

[โ€“] doctorzeromd@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago

Your memory is in line with mine, I have no idea what pro-piracy things the previous commenter is referring to, but would like to read about it.

[โ€“] doctorzeromd@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Could you link the information about the "special patches to play leaked games"? That is not my memory at all.

[โ€“] Kanzar@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Suspect they meant that when Tears of the Kingdom leaked early, a bunch of "Breath of the Wild" compatibility and performance patches came out for their early-access Patreon only builds. Or at least, that's what's been the scuttlebutt about the affair.

[โ€“] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Personally I hope im wrong, but Im seeing lawsuit after lawsuit and emulators being taken down like ryujinx, dolphin, all of them. They may be smart, but Suyu was just taken down as well.

[โ€“] Vilian@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

gitlab took it down not nintendo, they already have a self-hosted repo anyway, you can't kill open-source

dolphin was take down?

[โ€“] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Dolphin was not taken down. Dolphin was not allowed to launch on Steam because Nintendo threatened Valve with a lawsuit. Regardless of the merits of the case, Valve doesn't want to pay to defend a case so they can distribute a free emulator, so they caved and blocked Dolphin's Steam release.

Nintendo claimed Dolphin violates the DMCA but have not taken any direct legal action against Dolphin as far as I am aware.

[โ€“] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cause dolphin ships with the decryption keys for a wii (the part yuzu makes you dump yourself)

[โ€“] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Launching on steam didn't make distributing the key illegal. If its illegal on steam, it's illegal even when self-hosted.

Nintnedo took action because they knew they had leverage against valve.

[โ€“] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nothing is legal/illegal til proven in court, those willing to fight to prove legality doesnt define anything really

[โ€“] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whether it is legal to distribute that key does not depend on which platform is distributing it.

[โ€“] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Amen, but me doing a rolling stop in butt fuck Alberta certainly feels a lot more legal then plowing through a school zone stop sign in downtown new york, although they are both illegal.

My point is value is a target with much more to lose and literally no cards in the game (shit dolphin's free, theyre not even making profit off it) so why would they fight others battle's

[โ€“] andrew@radiation.party 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nintendo made no legal demands nor threatened to sue any involved party, their letter just formally requests that dolphin wouldnโ€™t be published on steam.

[โ€“] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

When lawyers write a formal letter it is backed by an implied threat that it could become litigious if the demands aren't met.