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Dramatic rise in women and girls being cut, new FGM data reveals (www.theguardian.com)

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Progress to prevent female genital mutilation needs to be ‘27 times faster’, says UN

The number of girls and women who have undergone female genital mutilation (FGM) has increased by 15% in the past eight years, according to new data.

Figures released by the UN children’s agency, Unicef, show that more than 230 million girls and women alive today have undergone FGM, compared with 200 million in 2016. The trend is towards girls being cut at a younger age, said Unicef executive director Catherine Russell.

“Female genital mutilation harms girls’ bodies, dims their futures, and endangers their lives,” she said. “We’re also seeing a worrying trend that more girls are subjected to the practice at younger ages, many before their fifth birthday. That further reduces the window to intervene. We need to strengthen the efforts of ending this harmful practice.”

Work to eliminate the practice by the UN’s target date of 2030 would need to be happening 27 times faster than it is now, Unicef said. FGM is not becoming more common globally, but more girls are being born in FGM-practising countries in comparison with the rest of the world.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Who are we kidding, genital mutilation is still being widely practiced in western countries as well.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

Yes, but mostly on men, still GM however and should be outlawed

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 18 points 8 months ago

It's (apparently) OK when christian/white/western/whatever/our people do it to infant boys.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but there are some important nuances.

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Such as Jewish tradition?

Could you imagine if the US made it illegal for Jews to cut up baby dicks?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

i can dream

[–] Head@lemmings.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not that, but the fact that men who have experienced this at a young age can still get off. The women cannot. There is a big difference.

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

They're both abhorrent and barbaric practices perpetuated by 'adults' with the mental capacity of a neanderthal.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -4 points 8 months ago

You are barking at the wrong tree. I'm all for folks bodily autonomy.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Obviously they should stop as well, but genital mutilation on women is a lot worse. Both the procedure and the adverse health effects

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago

Let's stop mutilating the genitals of babies, eh?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Why is "Genital Mutilation" not in the title?

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I see it in the title. FGM

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I thought that was a group doing a study at first.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I don't think you would have to study that for very long before you came to conclusions about the practice. I also don't want to be involved with your study because it makes me sad.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

Female Genital Mutilation. It used to be called female circumcision but that really isn't an accurate term. The two are not comparable.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

That's the GM in FGM.

IMHO abbreviating it is minimising it though.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

I learned something new. Also I agree.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago

We just want her to look like Mum so she won't get teased in the locker room. it's much more hygienic. it's just a part of our culture. quick whats some other bullshit we use to excuse doing this to boys?

many before their fifth birthday.

Jesus Christ, I remember getting stitches when I was 2, imagine remembering this kind of pain, holy fuck.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"27 times faster" is oddly specific.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Might just be (number of girls saved in year x) / ( (number of girls still getting cut in year x) - (number of girls still getting cut in year x - 1) )

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

I wish it were 28 times faster, but I guess I just care about women more than the UN.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not surprising if you've had your eyes on World News. Rise of Taliban of Afghanistan, rise of Houthis in Yemen, etc. Perpetual wars in northern Africa. Gender violence growing across Asia and the USA.

Everyone was so quick to call for withdrawal from "forever wars" in the middle east, and certainly western countries were known to do a lot of harm in those regions, but we did a lot of good as well and nobody wants to acknowledge that.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You know just in case you thought today would be a good day

[+] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org -27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Girls that survive genital mutilation also never mentally mature. I have seen research work that shows most never mature beyond early teens. Imagine being stuck mentally as a 12-13 year old for the rest of your life. Plus never enjoying sexually experience and mostly just being a baby machine.

It's a living nightmare.

Fuck you if you're even typing to equate FGM with circumcision. They are not the same.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Male circumcision is genital mutilation. Acknowledging that doesn't suggest a lack of empathy for any nonconsenting party involved in the practice of genital mutilation.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's not the same category, it's worth understanding what female genital mutation is. Circumcision is removing the foreskin. More often than not the boy will not know the difference after it heals. But the same is not what happens to girls. If it was compatible, the whole penis would be removed. What is called Emasculation

Here's the Wikipedia description of FGM

Typically carried out by a traditional circumciser using a blade, FGM is conducted from days after birth to puberty and beyond. In half of the countries for which national statistics are available, most girls are cut before the age of five.[7] Procedures differ according to the country or ethnic group. They include removal of the clitoral hood (type 1-a) and clitoral glans (1-b); removal of the inner labia (2-a); and removal of the inner and outer labia and closure of the vulva (type 3). In this last procedure, known as infibulation, a small hole is left for the passage of urine and menstrual fluid; the vagina is opened for intercourse and opened further for childbirth.[8]

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

More often than not the boy will not know the difference after it heals

same can be said for girls. That actually one of arguments why Dr. Kellogg want to circumcise every baby ass soon as possible. It would normalize the appearance, they would never know something was missing. Talk to guy that were cut in their teens and ask them if miss it. Here is a hint you will find a lot of yeses. But you wiki quote would make male circumcision type 1-a. So even its not that different.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine trying to dismiss cutting up baby penises as not being mutilation, because what is cut off is different.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Imagine comparing apples to oranges. Most white men have circumcision, it's not like it's life altering. Most will not even know. Girls who have FGM are disfigured and their lives are stunted.

The two are not the same thing. Fuck you for equation it.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

go talk to men in the foreskin restoration movement. See how many of them know something is missing, how many of them that were cut latter in life and are deeply harmed by it.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Most will not even know

So you're so stupid you think a man will see porn/other guys/ scientific drawings and not notice? You think most men are somehow unaware of what circumcision is and whether or not it was done to them?

The two are not the same thing

Weird, cuz to me they're both Genital Mutilation, which is the same thing by literal definition.

Fuck you for equation it.

And fuck you for spreading wild misinformation, calling most men too stupid to know shit about their own fucking dick, and for acting like women have in any way been harmed or had their experiences downplayed by including men in the "ban ALL baby genital mutilation" call.

FGM is horrific and should be banned worldwide with harsh punishments to anyone who does it. And a ban on GM at all would do that for both sexes

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You think most men are somehow unaware of what circumcision is and whether or not it was done to them?

Would you be surprised to know that most Christian and Jewish men are circumcised? In Western countries it was considered normal regardless of religion because it was believed to reduce medical problems.

Do those men know? I've known grown men that didn't know until the difference was shown to them. Because having it done doesn't change your life. Again it's not the same with FGM.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago

Would you be surprised to know that most Christian and Jewish men are circumcised?

Not in the slightest, because I've known that since I was a kid. As has every guy I know. Literally just go to a porn website, "uncut" and "uncircumcised" are fucking categories, it's that common knowledge.

Do those men know

See above

I've known grown men that didn't know until the difference was shown to them

I'll grant you maybe knew one. I sincerely doubt it was more than one unless you grew up strict Christian or similar. Or 50 years ago before it was taught in sex ed classes. Which is fine, but also not most men in this day and age.

Because having it done doesn't change your life

Someone at my school was bullied so hard they changed schools because their circumcision wasn't done correctly and they had a bit of a wonky scar. Got seen in the locker room one day, never lived it down.

I've known multiple men who were made fun of by women for being cut AND being uncut, because people suck.

Also the nerves and sensitivity thing, though idk how true it actually is

Is it the same life change? No. Is it still being treated differently because you were mutilated as a baby? Yes.

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

Wow, so many hoaxes and bullshit for such a short comment.