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Support and meta community for Beehaw. Ask your questions about the community, technical issues, and other such things here.

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This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.


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We hope this logo will look more friendly to people πŸ’–

Thanks again to @UrLogicFails@beehaw.org for their great work!

Beehaw!

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[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 77 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I get that it aligns the imagery more with the whole aesthetic but I can't help but be bummed for the little outgoing bee rustler. I really liked her

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There will always be groups of people who prefer the old and new. With more cohesive branding with our community logos and eventually a lemmy theme, I'm hoping we can rotate logos semi-regularly as a way to represent the diversity of our website and to help support amazing local artists.

But that's just my thoughts on it, in this case it was a logo commissioned for a specific purpose (app icon), and we wanted to align with that and celebrate new and great art (as well as continue to support the artist who's helped us with all our community icons!)

[–] GuyDudeman@beehaw.org 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m sure there’s a place where she could still work… like maybe the 404 page or the maintenance page?

[–] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'll look into places for this to exist

[–] howllo@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

This feels like an answer for a trivia question years down the line.

"Fun fact, the 404 page bee is actually the old logo from way back in the day!"

[–] TerryTPlatypus@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

That sounds like a good idea. Sometimes when I'm not able to visit the site, it's nice to have a different piece of artwork there, to still share a part of Beehaw even when it isn't able to connect to you at the moment.

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[–] nfld0001@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are a few examples that come to mind of rotating brand elements, both large and small, that make me think there's a lot of potential to give a place and community some flavor and fun. I get the vibe you're already on board with this kind of thing, but for the sake of putting it on record and giving everyone else a sense of what's possible, I think it'd be cool to give a sense of the kind of things we can do in the future. Admittedly I'm 99% sure that these ideas are impractical, if not impossible, with Lemmy's current UI abilities. Still, I think it may be good for the community to keep stuff like this in the backburner in case the potential opens up. This is spit balling, admittedly. Hopefully spit balling we'll be able to act on eventually, though.

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I remember Apollo for Reddit had a massive library of app icons that users could independently choose from. There was what I would call the primary mark and a few color or smaller derivatives of that, but there were also some wildly different ideas that were loosely tied to one another. Some were closely aligned with the original Apollo, others were barely connected to that visual identity. Either way, Chris got a lot of artists involved in the app icons aspect to Apollo. I forgot if they were commissioned or if it was some part of a community volunteering bit, but it was a cool way to add another touch of customizing and involvement to the app.

Newgrounds is an example that I think goes even farther than Apollo. There are visual elements that remain consistent, like the logo, logotype, and site iconography. But every so often (IIRC, something like once a month or once a season,) they'll bring in a community member to change up most of the site's color scheme and the site's padding graphics. I can't seem to get the Wayback Machine to load a good capture on my end, so I went ahead and took a screenshot for archrival's sake.

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I'm leaning toward saying that the new logo is an improvement, design wise. Digital icons, let alone content like tab icons, will always require some sacrifices in detail in order to be legible. This logo still has some legibility loss in smaller sizes (although I'll admit asking for that not to happen is a mighty tall order,) but I'm tempted to argue that it maintains its legibility better than the Bee Rustler. Mentioning visual unity with the community icons series is something I'd say is a plus, but if seasonal or community variants to the site logo is something that's explored later, it makes that point not quite as meaningful.

Bee Rustler was a cute lil' thing and I loved her as much as anyone else, but admittedly I'm not so sure her graphic was a good fit for a logo. Chances are, however, that this is the kind of thing that would be most completely resolved with a comprehensive brand set that can accommodate community flavoring in aspects of it when the time comes. I'd think that's getting well into long-term territory, however.

Issues aside with Bee Rustler being a catch-all logo solution, I doubt that Bee Rustler is going away entirely any time soon. Mascots, and more broadly the sense of characters within a community, have a way of maintaining staying power. There's going to be means and ways for Bee Rustler to show herself and still be part of the community lore, whether that's officially or through the user base. Like I've still gotta see the Bug Crusher through before I throw the towel, and I don't think that's gon' be the end of it from me or anyone else either 🀠.

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[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Agreed. This logo's all bee and no haw.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

I think we should adopt this phrase for posts/comments that don’t live up to the β€œbe(e) nice” standard. Example: β€œI understand that you’re upset, but that comment is all bee and no haw.”

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[–] lemillionsocks@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

Im not going to lie 80% of my choosing this instance was the bee in a cowboy hat with the remaining 20% being that it wasnt run by tankies.

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[–] Evergreen5970@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago

Fits well with the logos used for the communities. I do miss the bee in the cowboy gear though, I hope that image gets repurposed somewhere else on the site.

[–] Aio@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like it! Unfortunately i did just afew days ago make a homemade sticker for my backpack based on the old logo, I guess I'll have to update it :)

[–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now you can have two stickers.

[–] Aio@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah :D

Or more likely wait until the first one falls off, homemade stickers are not as high quality as professional ones (at least mine aren't).

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Ah damn πŸ˜”

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[–] trashhalo@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reminds me of hive! I love it.

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago

I mean, hard to go wrong with bestagon.

[–] tiago@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Same thought! I played the physical game once, and it was awesome when I found it on Steam.

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What was unfriendly about the old logo, if I may ask? I

[–] Lionir@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me, it kinda looked kinda of like a wasp about to sting you.

[–] SkepticElliptic@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago

Dont start none, won't bee none.

[–] pushka@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All these comments saying it's no longer a cowboy - look at their little pointy cowboy hat ~!

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[–] aperson@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I definitely prefer the older one!

[–] RickRussell_CA@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, cowboy bee was my new little bee buckaroo.

[–] aka_oscar@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

I like how it has a different color for its hexagon. It does make it distinct enough to look like the "main" icon.

Really like it myself, tbh. The cowboy hat does look more like a crown.

[–] farlateal@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

I liked the old one, but this new one is super adorable too. Really seems like it would be a fantastic enamel pin.

[–] menturi@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like the hexagon, matches the community icon shapes :) I'll surely miss the old logo, but that might just be(e) my human nature of resistance to change

[–] renard_roux@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Resistance is futile.

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[–] nlm@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Not bad!

The old one was good as well though :)

[–] Thalestr@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago
[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

I am immediately irrationally upset about a cartoon bee cowpoke.

Much more appropriate logo though, I like it.

[–] Adella1961@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

I like this one better than the old one. Great job!

[–] aes@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Oh

I'm going to miss the old thing :(

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you post a bigger version? I can’t see it very well on my phone.

[–] TofuScramble@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Definitely prefer the new logo. The old one looked like a wasp, and therefore infinitely more aggressive and vengeful.

[–] scribblemacher@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like the old one AND I like the new one. I will like all cartoon bee variations provided. Half the reason I joined this instance was for the bee pun.

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[–] communication@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I love it! Perfect blend of simple, sleek, cute, and friendly.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This might be just me, but my first impression was the new logo felt more "aggressive"... like the bee is more confrontational by looking you straight into the eye and being ready to attack.

I think I like more the one on @UrLogicFails@beehaw.org profile banner: less aggressive bee? ...with the moustache making it more cartoonish, and less "oh f*ck, a bee is trying to sting me!".

But again, this is just my personal impression, and some possible bee fobia.

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[–] s0phia@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago
[–] Mutoid@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

The honeycomb theme on every icon is a pretty swell idea. Bravo.

[–] l4sgc@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was something about the shape and color of the old wings that always made me thing there was an alert dot, like they didn't fit in. I really like the hexagon background, colors, and wings, in the new logo.

But I think the shape of the bee itself could be improved; I'd round bottom instead of having a stinger point. And if the thing on the top is a crown I think it should be a different color, otherwise I just have no idea what that thing on top is, maybe I just don't know enough about bee anatomy?

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[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Looks great!

[–] hachyderm@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago
[–] literallyacat@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Shiny hatted bebby bee boi

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