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Just had this thought while running with my dog and getting fatigued. Why does it feel like that? What is going on in the tissue to make it "burn?"

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[–] Grumpydaddy@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Acid buildup in muscle tissue. Here is an article that explains what is happening:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/articles/science_fact_or_science_fiction_lactic_acid_buildup_causes_muscle_fatigue_and_soreness

Esit: I originally said that your.muscles are creating waste chemicals quicker than your bloodstream can handle causing those bad chemicals build up locally. While this is true in a broader sense, I think it is more nuanced that that. Reading the article should give a better explaination

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They’re asking about lungs

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks, that was really interesting!

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

How come running hard (especially when out of shape) makes your lungs feel like they are on fire?

TIL bad chemicals in muscles make people's lung tissue burn. 🙄

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 8 months ago

Shit. Must've been breathing through my gills this whole time.

[–] JimmyChanga@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's a few factors really, your out of shape comment could be one, no offence meant If you're pushing your lungs, and airways in general, further than usual, and quite literally stretching them, and faster than they're used to, the extra stretching can cause that feeling. Lessens as you get fitter. If its proper cold, or.dry, and if you mostly breathe through your mouth, or both, the air isn't a match for the warm humid like air in your lungs and airways...nose breathing is a big thing to improve your running, there's a great guy whose name I cannot recall who is a massive advocate for nose breathng in runners and how it can massively help your long distance proper too! Includes things about dehydration lessening etc...worth a search for

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

no offense

None taken. I know I'm unhealthy. I smoke, too. So all that is a factor. Actually was wondering if it was just from use or if maybe I am not breathing the right way. Possibly both. I have a habit of subconsciously holding my breath when doing physical activity and I know that ain't good. lol

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 8 months ago

For what it's worth, the burning in the lungs you describe still happens when you're fit. It's just that you're going at a faster pace for a longer time before it happens.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It can be a few things, without feeling it personally, and with your personal assessment, my best guess is what you felt was a "stitch in your side".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_stitch

There are alot of theories on what exactly the precise biological cause is, but there are known things that make it more likely, and ways to sort of treat it when it comes up.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, this feeling I am posting about is felt in the chest area. From like the diaphragm to the back of the throat. It's not a stabbing pain, but as stated kind a burning sensation. Not extremely painful but quite uncomfortable as you're trying to catch your breath after you stop running. That's my fault for not giving a lot of detail.

[–] Basilisk@mtgzone.com 3 points 8 months ago

Could be exercise-induced asthma? I get this as well and only found out it wasn't a common affliction a few weeks ago, when it was pointed out that this might be a cause. For me at least, after a while the pain gets so bad that every time I swallow it feels like my throat doesn't want to reopen.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Higher blood pressures and heart rates from exercising when unfit can cause small blood vessels to burst in your lungs as well. It's not usually enough to cause an issue but you can taste it in your breath.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks. I don't have time to read it right now, but you're certain that's a very common thing to happen? I'm overweight and have been jogging and running a lot lately. When I run hard, my nose and lungs burn. I like to sprint in intervals until I can't anymore, after jogging, and then walk for a bit. Repeat. I'm wondering if this is dangerous at all.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's common but from what I can tell it's not harmful. In rare cases it can be but in most it isn't.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you for the honesty. I'll read over it now.

[–] recursive_recursion@programming.dev 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

my best educated guess is that the high rate of gas exchange incudes cell stress/minor inflamation

[–] isles@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Only tangentially related to your question, but I've seen recommendations for Kettlebell ladders to increase your VO2 Max as a phenomenal way to train your lungs for running.

Aerobic high-intensity intervals improve VO2max more than moderate training

Men's health article (Yeah yeah, fie on tiktok)

Effects of Kettlebell Training on Aerobic Capacity

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Humans weren't meant to run, we were made to computer

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I assume you know you're joking, But actually the main asset that let us our specie survive is our ability to run for long where we beat most other animals. Tons of average persons run marathon for fun. Try to bring your dog running and you'll see that you're best friend will get tired before you.

We don't have nice claws, we don't even run that fast. But we're one of the few animals able to run for hours and hours. Which mean that we could hunt by exhausting our target, and harvest fruits/vegetable over a long distance.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Someone wrote an awesome short story once about humans from an alien's perspective and how they will keep following you forever, until you can't move, until you're collapsed from exhaustion. I wish I could find it to share right now.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to know the title of this as well.

Same here!

Replying as a reminder

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah I was joking.

That's wild though, I can't jog for more than like, 5 minutes at most haha and I'm pretty fit like my BMI is pretty much perfect, no diabetus, body fat low etc.

Even as a kid my lungs would burn just running for like 10 minutes to the point of breathlessnes and collapse long before my muscles would even begin to feel tired, I never understood why they kept forcing us to but I guess it makes sense now.

I thought our evolutionary advantage was building guns honestly.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Getting reddit default sub vibes now.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Mine just tastes like raw hamburger.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't get the reference. Who's A-a-ron?

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 8 months ago

His lungs were burning for completely different reasons tho.