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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't understand why this wasn't done on day 1 of the invasion.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

International law I reckon.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Really? Any lawyers or something can verify?

Surely if international law applied back then, then it still does? What has changed?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 months ago

Laws do change actually and thats a good thing.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Because international law isn’t a real thing, not in any sense that makes it similar to the internal laws of a state.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 12 points 6 months ago

Right so the argument is that back at the start of the invasion, Russia had not done a lot of damage (monetarily speaking) but now it has done so much damage that the frozen assets don't even pay the whole bill, so taking it is akin to taking the assets of someone with a lot of debt.

I guess it kinda makes sense. Still think they should've taken it right at the start though. This war shouldn't have gone on for so long like this.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because if you want everyone to use your banking cartel, stealing people's money as a political ploy tends to scare them away.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Or just don't launch full scale invasions against sovereign countries? Is that bar too high?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait, did the US claim Iraq or Afghanistan their territory?

The US did give lots of assets to those countries to rebuild. Not nearly enough and I would support other countries freezing US assets and giving them to those countries to help rebuild.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

America installed a government that kidnapped little boys to rape them and transformed the entire economy into an opium farm,

Then they left and stole 7 Billion in Afghan assets.

For more info: https://youtu.be/SHcl-3vo2_0?si=8RZQpSodPPscCaDO

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Guy I'm agreeing with you?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago

Sorry my bad. The answer is they claimed both and still occupy iraq

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Instruction unclear. I proceeded to launch invasions against non sovereign countries

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 12 points 6 months ago

Property rights are kinda a big deal in The West. Plus capital from less savory regimes brings in much needed liquidity in western markets. Ceasing this capital will make it less likely that The West is seen as a safe haven for investment from those kinds of countries. On the long term this might even cause a parallel financial system to arise, which would be very bad news for the US and it’s reserve currency.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah why not? Consider it reparations.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I'd say look what happened after we did that to Germany, but Russia seems to get worse with or without encouragement

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON (AP) — Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen on Tuesday offered her strongest public support yet for the idea of liquidating roughly $300 billion in frozen Russian Central Bank assets and using them for Ukraine’s long-term reconstruction.

“It is necessary and urgent for our coalition to find a way to unlock the value of these immobilized assets to support Ukraine’s continued resistance and long-term reconstruction,” Yellen said in remarks in Sao Paulo, Brazil, where Group of 20 finance ministers and central bank governors are meeting this week.

The idea of using Russia’s frozen assets has gained traction lately as continued allied funding for Ukraine becomes more uncertain and the U.S. Congress is in a stalemate over providing more support.

Yellen said Tuesday that it is “extremely unlikely” that tapping the frozen funds would harm the dollar’s standing in the global economy “especially given the uniqueness of the situation where Russia is brazenly violating international norms.

John Kirby, President Joe Biden’s national security spokesman, said at a White House press briefing Tuesday that “we still believe Russia needs to be responsible for the damage” brought onto Ukraine by “exploring the option of using those frozen assets.”

Earlier this month, the European Union passed a law to set aside windfall profits generated from frozen Russian central bank assets.


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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Please do it. Make it so every other government withdraws their reserves once they know you'll steal them if the opportunity arises.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I think Russia had ample warning that there'd be consequences.