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The memes of the climate

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The climate of the memes of the climate!

Planet is on fire!

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[–] kapulsa@feddit.de 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Being mindful of ones own actions is good, but saving the planet needs us to target big oil.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/23/big-oil-coined-carbon-footprints-to-blame-us-for-their-greed-keep-them-on-the-hook

Posting and liking memes is great, but real change comes from actions. If you are as concerned as we are about climate change, please consider joining or supporting climate activists near you.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Thank you for the link. It’s important for everyone to read, especially those who don’t understand why “carbon footprint” has recently become a joke on Lemmy.

[–] TakiMinase 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, target big oil, not poor people trying to get to work.

[–] pizzazz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Using big oil's cheap goods?

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

What does big oil do exactly?

They burn this oil they dig out of the ground and cause fossil fuels?

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Citizen, I can assure you that climate change is completely your fault for leaving the bathroom light on the other day. Now, if you'll excuse me I have a mountain to frack."

[–] pizzazz@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah because they do fracking to simply burn fossil fuels because they're bad bad evil ppl. Not because there's like, a huge demand for them.

[–] Arcity@feddit.nl 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is a demand because they lobby away investment in alternatives.

[–] pizzazz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not denying that. But "big oil" provides for personal needs. It's not like private consumption and hydrocarbon extraction are two completely separate concepts. One exists to feed the other. If we really want to do something about this clusterfuck we need to be ready to change our personal consumption patterns; total depersonalization of responsibility is ridiculous and naive.

[–] Arcity@feddit.nl -1 points 9 months ago

Ah yes, buy less advocado toast and buy an electric car that is almost as poluting with our current production and infrastructure. No you can't out buy the oil industry. If we are talking meat consumption than less we do have more say in scaling it back.

[–] Jakra@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

Just wait till I tell you about plastic recycling!

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Agreed, if I want to roll coal in my daily commute that is my business. As long as I produce less CO2 than an oil refinery, my actions are without consequence.

[–] pizzazz@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also, there is a sense of incredibly naive detachment here. It's not like the oil refinery is working because all people involved have the only ultimate goal of killing the planet because of some evil plan. The oil refinery is working for you, to produce the gasoline you pump in your car and the plastics you buy stuff in every single day. We need to reduce demand for that stuff, through individual action too. If you use oil industry's stuff, "their emissions" are YOUR emissions.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The refinery is still operating because the people who run it make tons of money no because "we have to" ya dunce.

Investments in solar 50 years ago and plant based plastics around the same time would have literally saved the planet.

[–] pizzazz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I do not answer to those who cannot argument in a civilized manner

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

This is actually true. You as an individual can't even make a blip compared to industry.

Go ahead and feel guilty tho like the corps want you to, pussy.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's not propaganda per se. It's a reminder of how much you're their bitch.

[–] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] pizzazz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I might agree but keep in mind that all consumer goods and even food will become way more unaffordable. Our economy is based on emissions because it's cheap and kinda convenient for everyone, not because we're that hellbent on destroying the earth.

[–] Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Agreed! That convenience is called a negative externally. It is a cost that accumulates to everyone that is not captured in the manufacturing process. Implementing a carbon tax (which can start small, and increment predictably over a period of years) would re-align purchasing decisions to true costs.

All change is hard, but it is the best solution because it appropriately distributes costs with minimal complexity and no loopholes. And it sure beats doing nothing IMHO.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

This is why we should be mad at the company that manufactures Taylor Swift’s private jet and not her.