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[–] lemminger@lemm.ee 63 points 8 months ago

just hate both for whatever reasons. if you can't think of any, owning a private jet is definitely a good one.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This whole thing literally started with thr guy tracking Elons Jet and making fun of him for it. The memes are currently about Taylor Swift because she's now suing the guy without legal cause as a way to intimidate him.

Stop trying to make this a culture war thing.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

She's not suing him, she's threatening to by sending a cease and desist. Anyone can send a C&D to anyone for any reason, they don't actually do anything until action is put behind them.

This is actually an important distinction, because if she does sue him it'll be really interesting to see the actual legal reason behind it.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

She'd probably try to argue that regular updates effectively on what folks will assume is her general position endangers her and the guests she loans her jet to given the crazy fans and even crazier haters.

People have been getting violent over media popular with women and girls since Elvis.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

That's the argument she has already given which is the exact same argument as Elon.

I would understand not wanting your plane tracked but come on it's a plane, that's what they do. If you don't want it, don't travel in a private jet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Live tracking of their car could probably be dangerous for them, but a plane? Nah.

[–] Lath@kbin.social 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised to have some articles in the next few weeks uncovering a massive smearing campaign against Swift funded by republicans.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lolol progressives have hated her fire years for this. Now it's right wing backed?

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

The hate itself, no, the sheer deluge of memes about it coincidentally right after the Rs spooked she would use her status to give Joe Biden an official endorsement? Hardly unreasonable to suspect it given what we know they'll stoop to.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

I started expecting the Kremlin to smear her a few weeks ago.

They have the resources and experience needed to shift public opinion with anonymous social media accounts. Swift threatened their candidate's viability (Trump) so they want to make an example out of her.

Turns out she's pretty squeaky clean. Best they can come up with so far is AI generated pics of airplanes and a conspiracy she rigged a football game.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 33 points 8 months ago

Hating rich people because theyre rich people

[–] IDew@lemm.ee 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

He's germane

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 8 months ago

You can hate everyone, no need to restrict yourself.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Elon Musk can be hated for MANY reasons. This is just one of many.

[–] StreetLamp@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

It's not about owning jets, it's about using the one she has for 13 minute fucking flights while preaching about climate change. If musk pulled the same kinda shit, he'd be mocked for it too, among other things he deserves to be mocked for.

Edit: also, you've had 2 chances to spell hating correctly and failed both times.

[–] doofer_name@feddit.de 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Do you think Musk is not doing similar things? We have a politician that flew to Sylt (island in Germany) with his private jet for a fucking wedding of another politician and he didnt get half as much shit for it.

What Im saying is: hate everyone equally or dont hate.

I don’t like Taylor Swifts behaviour anymore then you. But clearly someone was out for her and not for poor Elon. Where are the fucking memes about literally every rich person? Jeff Bezos disgustingly big yacht for example?

And if it really was about her double standards: Elon pretends to be an environmentalist whenever he talks about Tesla and electric cars. Yet his factories get build in the middle of water protection zones, a Tesla is shot into space and do you really think hes not using those 3 jets on a regular basis? Why have 3 after all?

Regarding your edit: maybe I’ve wasted my time writing this because clearly you’re not up for an actual discussion, but for sad and petty schoolyard behaviour.

[–] StreetLamp@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I do hate EVERY billionaire and politician destroying the environment doing stupid wasteful things, elon musk can absolutely go eat shit, i'm not defending him. it's just that I think people are trying to give her a free pass specifically due to her political views more than anything else and that everyone, regardless of their opinions on anything should be held accountable for their actions. As for my edit, I just like being a petty asshole to people I don't agree with. I'm not even a native speaker, i've probaby made like 4 mistakes in this paragraph alone.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Raising awareness of private jet usage by targeting politicians is not going to be as effective as targeting high profile celebrities.

The positive is hopefully that rich folk start reducing their private jet usage so they dont get raked over thr coals and have a jet-usage-tracking-account publishing their ridiculous flights.

Extreme carbon usage like that is a huge issue (if not the defining issue) at the moment to a large amount of people.
Shine a light on all of it, expose it all. Every polititian doing stupid stuff, every rich CEO, every celeb. But it has to start somewhere

[–] Excrubulent -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But somehow it's really important to raise awareness of this issue by targeting the most visible woman that is doing this. If you don't think this is part of a wider problem, you're not paying attention.

[–] Yucky_Dimension@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The person being criticized happens to be a woman. Musk has been criticized for the same shit, back when he tried to sue the guy tracking his private jet on Twitter. Guess who's trying to do the same thing right now?

If she didn't try sue someone for posting public information, nobody would have cared. Textbook Streisand effect. I believe, she deserves to be called out for that.

There is no point in calling out Musk anymore. Everyone already knows he is a piece of shit.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ok, well TS has been roasted over this.
Who is next?

The roasters have shown billionaires are carbon spewing POS.
Theyve shown musics favourite isnt innocent of this, nor immune to scruitiny.

Targeting a politician isnt worthwhile, unless its a super hypocritical action (like greta taking private jets).

I guess a movie star? Someone from "dont look up", a parable for climate change denial? Hits the hypocrytical stance. Plenty of celebs in that.
Cant target J-Law, cause she is a woman (and thats unnaceptable to you).
Leo is already known as an oddity (what with never dating anyone older than 24).
So, Jonah Hill i guess?
Could try Rob Morgan. Hes black, i dunno how that fits into your prejudice of who can and cant be targetted.
Altho, they are only the actors. Maybe better to go after the writer/director/producer Adam McKay. Hes white, in his 50s, has had a successful career. Sounds perfect

[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If musk pulled the same kinda shit, he’d be mocked for it too

Yes, it is funny how more people are not calling out the Electric Car Jesus for swooping around in private jets and single-handedly undoing any positive effect his customers can have...

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They were, this literally started with the kid tracking his jet and Elon getting so butthurt about it he bought twitter so he could han the account

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I think he bought Twitter to turn it into a right wing cesspool. The "oops now I have to buy it oh nooo" was just a cover.

[–] Feeee23@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yes go for the grammar You're a hero :)

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

The entire response was actually responding to your comment, and one side note was added to address your great spelling. You went for the side note.

[–] doofer_name@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

Getroffene Hunde bellen.

[–] StreetLamp@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Yes, ignore the actual point I've made, you're a master debater (maybe remove the de-)

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, we did bully elon about his private jets so hard he bought Twitter about it...

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait you're saying if we keep bullying Taylor swift she might buy Elon Musk?

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

We feed the worst billionaires to the billionaires who aren't actively trying to dismantle democracy. Once we've fattened those billionaires up, we eat the rich.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Timelapse of 525 private jets departing Las Vegas following the Super Bowl.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

It's weird that the billionaires haven't heard of TVs

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

Why can't I generally be displeased with both for their jets, and for their. Billionaire status? Nothing else needs to come into it

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Well, it's not really about the jets is it?

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago
[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Nobody should own a private (personal) jet.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago

Taylor is fantastic.