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  1. Harry Potter Fandoms will be a part of the Fediverse one way or the other. It’s better to shape this development rather than being overwhelmed by it.
  2. Harry Potter Fandoms are a huge opportunity for the Fediverse. Look at what the collaboration of Lego and Disney brought to Fortnite. People want to spend time in places, in which they feel familiar and welcomed. I'm not saying collaborating with big companies here, what I'm saying is: the Fediverse needs to be filled with life and we have to use that opportunity first, before others do.
  3. Don't throw the opinions of J.K. Rowling and its fandom in one bucket. It’s one of the biggest in the world, there is a broad range of opinions and people.
  4. The Fediverse needs more projects that immediately make sense to people. Projects that you tell a person about, and they say: "Oh, yeah, that makes sense." Mastodon in comparison to Twitter was such a thing: its billionaire proof. Everybody gets why that's a good thing. A better, more open place to build Harry Potter fan sites could be another.
  5. The project (including other places like this that may follow) could also become another attractive place on the Fediverse for the open-source community. Who wouldn’t be excited to help build the world of Harry Potter?

All of this is of course up for discussion. I'm a very stubborn person but I'm also able to listen ;)

Edit: I removed "queer friendly" from the description. Its not a claim that I can fully uphold anyways. Instead, it has a no tolerancy policy against transphobia, which is more clear and probably easier to enforce.

Here is the link: https://diagonlemmy.social

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 81 points 9 months ago (16 children)

Man, the gatekeeping is wild these days.

You're allowed to like a story you grew up with as a child and also dislike its bigot author, they're not mutually exclusive. Talking about Harry Potter doesn't give Rowling magical transphobe powers; Voldemort logic doesn't work in real life. The rightsholders have already taken great strides to distance the HP property from Rowling and adopt it to be more inclusive in spite of her TERF bullshit. It's not a hate crime to like a story about child wizards anymore.

If people want to geek out about some books or movies they like, they should be allowed to do so without the insinuation that they're by default enabling transphobia or something. But the beauty of the Fediverse is that your community has just as much right to exist as any other, so as long as you can maintain a healthy, hate-free community that isn't posting a bunch of pro-Rowling bullshit, I say go for it. Anyone who would block your instance for merely existing probably isn't worth your time, anyway.

[–] technomad 9 points 9 months ago

I feel like most of what you said there can just be directly copy-pasted to the sidebar.

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[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Well, as always I'll recommend our small existing community !harrypotter@literature.cafe

Literature.cafe is a lovely instance, Gabe the admin is a very nice person.

Good luck with your instance, I'll probably visit

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

direct comm subscribe link !harrypotter@literature.cafe

fyi, Mbin now can utilize the standard ! format

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

love this! i'm trans and honestly harry potter was such a big reason why i'm still here. it was one of the only things i loved when i was still in the closet and between starkid, leaky, and pottercast, it resulted in making some amazing friends. fuck rowling but i'll never forget harry potter <3

harry potter is the trio and the fandom not the author

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Man. People need to learn how to ignore stuff they don't like or use the block button.

[–] Nima@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

right? there's more outrage than is really worth it. just don't participate in it if you don't like it. instance blocking is a thing now on lemmy I'm fairly sure.

[–] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 29 points 9 months ago

The crass may say "don't hate the player, hate the game", but a more accurate way to get the point across is that one can indeed separate the content from the creator and should not be judged for it.

Jewish people can watch Disney movies and not have to consider that Walt Disney was a huge anti-semite and a terrible human being.

People use Linux and don't even care that Torvolds is no stranger to controversy himself.

It's OK to like a story and not like the person who wrote it.

[–] yildolw@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Divorcing the author from the work is rather challenging when that author is a living billionaire who makes money whenever you buy any kind of merchandise of their work. While pirating their trademarks without paying is in principle harmless, the moment you cross over into, say, paying money for Harry Potter Lego or Harry Potter Fortnite skins, you are then immediately funding the author's hate campaigns

The instance name is clever, but I think you will find the concept embarrassing in hindsight. I would recommend not doubling down on the cognitive dissonance

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm neither an HP fan nor queer so take what I'm going to say with a grain of salt.

I think that the idea is mostly good, but don't underestimate the amount of work necessary to keep your instance safe. Make sure to have admins online 24/7, that they're all on the same page regarding rule enforcement, consult often the queer community on stuff that matters, and make sure that it's part of your admin team.

The main thing that I believe that you need to watch out for is users lacking discernment. They'll come in two "flavours": the ones trying to sell JK Rowling's transphobia, and the ones trying to sell hate against the fanbase.

Also, I'm not sure but I think that "no tolerance towards transphobia" sounds easier to enforce than "queer-friendly". The goal is the same, the difference is less subjectivity. (In general it's better to approach rules and their enforcement as objectively as possible.)

[–] blueberry@diagonlemmy.social 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the tips, they are very helpful.

I think I will exclude "queer friendly" again. It raises some false promises that I think I cannot hold. I like the term “no tolerance towards transphobia”.

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

Look at what the collaboration of Lego and Disney brought to Fortnite.

I'm not sure if this is the example you want to follow

[–] ludrol@bookwormstory.social 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Hey, Good Luck with your endeavors. Beware of mob brigading and "canceling" you. There is already !harrypotter@literature.cafe Make sure you have at least one or two moderators with additional technical sysadmin that will keep the instance up.

I think the biggest challenge at the start will be keeping community alive. I know from experience that if you are the only person posting it is disheartening, and it leads to very fast burnout.

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[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 9 months ago

Sounds cool. I'm not a Harry Potter fan and certainly no fan of Rowling, but I'm really surprised that this is controversal.

How do you explain the Fediverse? You can find an instance you like. Harry Potter people can have theirs.

[–] dubbel@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 9 months ago

I think this is a good idea and wish you all the best.

Moderation will be key of course, but the rules ( http://diagonlemmy.social/post/108 ) sound good.

At the same time, if somebody doesn't even want to think about HP, they can easily block the entire instance, no harm no foul.

[–] blueberry@diagonlemmy.social 6 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Did this even went through?

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[–] TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Honestly, it’s not even about JK Rowling, the actual Harry Potter series has very poor values in general, and the world is quite poorly written. Not something I’d want to promote to other people or children regardless of Rowling’s nonsense. The books turned me off very much as a kid though the movies are much more palatable. It’s just a really mean series.

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