In two ways. They also killed the chances of further good deals. When they aren’t in power why would democrats ever want to negotiate with them
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The last time they had a majority (first mandate of Obama if I recall?) they tried to work with the Republicans in good faith and they got nowhere so fast that the public voted them out from dissatisfaction.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I remember it.
It was a one person majority in the Senate that only lasted for a brief amount of time and was gone once healthcare reform ate up all of the time before Ted Kennedy died. They basically took what Mitt Romney had done at the state level and applied it federally, which is what Republicans claimed to want before they decided to call it Obamacare and pretend they didn't help craft it.
The health care bill contained a series of things that are broadly popular when they were laid out individually. Package them together and call it "Obamacare" in the media and it was suddenly unpopular.
Tea Party astroturfing can't be understated, either. The GOP grabbed back power at just the right time to be able to gerrymander districts and then keep them gerrymandered up until now. We're only beginning to erode that back.
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Because you need 60 votes to do anything in the Senate.
Only until the instant the Senate takes a simple majority vote to lower it to 50.
While the Senate has historically been a useful bulwark for pushing back against the creeping fascism of the GOP, it's also a matter of fact that it is an antidemocratic institution that in the longer term we're better off minimizing or eliminating. It's the House of Lords and we do not need a House of Lords in the modern era.
Though I would like to see proper reapportionment in the House of Reps first, including adding significantly more members.
While the Senate has historically been a useful bulwark for pushing back against the creeping fascism of the GOP
Has it?
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Because corporate dems are basically republicans. Our whole political system is right of center. With a few outliers.
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Have you ever listened to Democrats? The leadership keeps saying that they believe we need a strong Republican Party for some reason.
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The year is 2006 and Republicans are killing a compromise deal that they all admitted they actually liked.
The year is 2014 and Republicans are killing a compromise deal that they all admitted they actually liked.
The year is 2024 and the GOP is about to win in a landslide on the "Democrats never get anything done" platform, so I guess you can't argue with their results.
Idk if I believe that.
We're about to see a lot of "unlikely voters" turning out....
And to think, running the same guy who tried to cling to power with a self coup after losing the last election in a landslide to the guy you lost to 4 years ago who's supreme court justices "Roe is settled law" brought about headlines of suffering and skyrocketing teen pregnancy.....
Anyway remember that foreign policy is about power, not morality. And if "both sides are the same" no, one side is corporate shills and the other are fascist sycophants.
Not voting for Biden or Not Voting is a vote for the Christian Caliphate where white is right but only if you're a straight male. Everyone else can stay in the kitchen or go to the camps. History doesn't repeat but it rhymes
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My uterus is downright furious. I'm so glad it can't read or it might try arson.
Amen.
Never forget that Democrats were supposed to lose the midterms in a landslide and the economy was the top priority, supposedly. They barely lost the House but made gains in the Senate. And I think if you ask Republicans if they feel like winners in the House... Well, we can all see how that's been going.
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We're about to see a lot of "unlikely voters" turning out....
I'll fucking believe that when I see it.
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I dont think that will fly this time. It's VERY obvious now that they can't do ANYTHING in the house. Their ability to govern has been laid bare.
Meanwhile Biden managed to pass some of the most meaningful and useful legislation in decades with the previous congress. So even if Republicans do nothing, Biden's done more than the last two presidents to move the needle.
Also, they got clowned hard. Biden admitted he'd shut down the border--which is what they were clamoring for him to do. Then they killed it. They dont care about the border and its obvious. This isn't going to be laid at Dems feet.
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The year is 2024 and the GOP is about to win in a landslide on the "Democrats never get anything done" platform, so I guess you can't argue with their results.
~~2018 is going to be a red wave~~
~~2020 is going to be a red wave~~
~~2022 is going to be a red wave~~
Surely 2024 will be a red wave!
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Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to throw this in every Trump voter's face any time they mention the border or national security ever again. They'll be back to know-nothing cockroach status again in 2025.
Yeah, that'll work about as well as reminding them about the Reagan tax cuts, Bush's wars, and Trump's fuckery ballooned the national debt that they're always so "worried" about.
I've used similar pressure about Trump's steel tariffs to shut chuds up about politics. It works.
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Imagine overlooking the benefit to your citizens because you want your would be leader to do it instead.
And people still vote for these pieces of shit
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If you’re ever arguing with a relative, remember that this is the most unproductive House of Representatives that we’ve ever had. Ever. They’re barely even working in there. Why? Because republicans are sitting on their hands for everything
If talking to a relative remind them that the border patrol themselves supported this bill despite normally criticizing Biden.
That's what will fluster them the most.
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Voters are dumb as fuck or lazy. It should be a complete wipe out so many times over but the fact that it's even remotely close is crazy.
You'll have some person come in and say the usual: "the Dems can't work or get stuff done".
This type of thing should ensure none of them should work in public office again but the voters ain't gonna do shit.
I'm a voter. I will 'do shit'. It's a fucked up world and many people fit your generalization, but it's the job of reasonable people everywhere to educate others and promote sanity and optimism wherever possible.
Yeah, you're right. I think Jon Stewart said that he hates apathy and all that when he first departed the Daily Show.
I just think my wall-to-wall coverage of all of this has angered me too much.
Thanks for being a reasonable voice.
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The point was never to secure the border, the point was to make it look like Democrats weren't.
it was a gift, and they tossed it because the democrats might look good for compromising and working across-the-aisle.
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Its ALWAYS one vote short. The 60th voter- ONE FUCKING PERSON-fucked the entire voting popukation.
It is absolutely controlled opposition, every time.
Pussies for Trump should be their catchphrase.
They lack the warmth and depth to be pussies.
The only thing that matters to authoritarians is that they win. They do not care if they are king of the shitpile, or if the world burns down around them. As long as other people are kissing their ass while it happens.
Just wanted to point out if you've got a spare half hour, it's worth listening to the audio in the article where they interview Michael Bennett. He hits on a lot of nuances about the immigration issue that isn't often covered in most articles.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know that Republicans are nothing more than fucking cowards that won't ever do what's right and will always bitch and fucking moan about how they know they're shit people when they're alone.
The rest of us are admitting it in public, so maybe they should too.
This should be in the dictionary under the phrase "Cutting off your nose to spite your face."
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