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[–] PortableHotpocket@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of valid criticisms of capitalism. Especially the current state of capitalism in the west. It doesn't mean I want to go full communist, far from it. But I'm a mixed economy man. I think certain things should be highly regulated or even owned by the government (and, by extension, the people).

Healthcare is one good example to me. I think private is fine to an extent, but I would never want a fully private system. I think the model in Canada is a good place to start, where public is the go-to option, but private exists if you want to skip the queue and can afford it. The dynamic between insurance and private healthcare in the states makes for a toxic experience for patients, and that serves as one of the primary reasons why I would never want to go fully private. Doctors shouldn't have to fight tooth and nail to get your medication or diagnostic procedure approved when it's medically necessary, assuming the system can reasonably absorb the cost.

Mixed economies are the way.

[–] Oldbean@lemmy.fmhy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Socialism, Communism, none of these should be bad words that cannot be discussed. In the US these words have become boogeymen. I don’t think we should adopt failed policies from fails governments, but we should be studying what did work and open to some changes. This is how countries progress, and not stagnate.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Capitalism is just hoping to get to the point where laborers no longer even have their labor to sell, and then they can just write off the workers and worker solidarity because they will no longer have leverage in a capitalist economy.

Which is honestly why we need newer ideas, which conveniently don't have the same bullshit baggage, because they're new ideas.

Sticking to ideas that were developed over 200 years ago is bad whether it is capitalism or communism and as situations change, so should the tactics of the organized laborers.

[–] rarely@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Communism? You mean be like china? No thanks. Socialism? You mean be like russia? No thanks. We already tried both of those and you see where that got us? China and russia.

What do you mean those are communist and socialist countries? It says so in the name! Do you think rulers would lie about that sort of thing?

Who the hell is Dunning Krueger?

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the old "you have little choice but to participate in the system, therefore you can never criticize the system" position.

[–] deepblue@aussie.zone 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"We should improve society somewhat"
"Yet you participate in society. Curious!"

Source: https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/

[–] poVoq 15 points 1 year ago

Read up on the difference between private and personal property I guess.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Looking over at my subscriptions: Nope. Not anymore.

Even this phone license agreement says I don't really own most everything in it.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nope, We own nothing. We rent, Lease, and Subscribe but we don't own a goddamn thing. Most of us have literally nothing to lose.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I am merely borrowing things until I cease to exist again.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

That is one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever read.

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