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cross-posted from: https://midwest.social/post/8284923

Key Takeaway:

"In defending itself against union busting allegations, Trader Joe’s fired a cannon ball that could sink the ship of modern American labor law.

The grocery store chain is arguing that the federal agency prosecuting it for unfair labor practices — including giving union workers worse retirement benefits and barring workers from wearing union pins at work — is unconstitutional."

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 74 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My friend always joked that Trader Joe's was the 'bougie' option for groceries.

Guess it's less of a joke when they're openly waging class warfare.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The funny thing is they are Aldi.

The Aldi brothers had a disagreement about selling cigarettes in their stores in Germany, so they split the company into two; Aldi and Aldi Süd. When they started moving into America they couldn't have those two names, so there is Aldi and Trader Joes. Obviously they market themselves differently and operate differently, same company wearing different hats.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

TBF Aldi Nord is the owner/investor in Trader Joes. The company that we know as Aldi in the US is Aldi Süd, a different company.

[–] lyam23@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where does Lidl fit into the picture?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It is a straight up copy of and competitor to Aldi.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 9 months ago

True but the way you put it makes it sound like they are still connected. AFAIK they are completely separate at every level.

[–] mautamu@midwest.social 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most definitely!

At least where I am, they're in the most uptown bougie strip mall they can get into; same situation with Whole Foods. Starting to shop exclusively at the two state-wide/local stores that don't have these issues, but wish more folks had access to quality local grocers who pay well and support unions.

For groceries, I like to use my local food co-op. They can be more expensive though, so I can't always afford to shop there.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Maybe this is an ignorant question, but is there a list of companies that are pro-union? I know there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, but God damn at least I want to buy my shit from companies run by actual humans instead of this vermin

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

The union's website lists the companies they operate in and most union stores have a sticker on the front doors, near the front doors, or by customer service that says the local.

You can of course ask an employee, and if they say no you can tell them that it is disappointing for them and go elsewhere.

[–] thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not ignorant. Ethical consumerism is difficult.

Sadly, not for groceries per se, but take a look at "B Corps" and B Corp certification.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_Corporation_(certification)

You might also be interested in how various country's labor protection and fairness practices stack up. Spoiler alert, the US doesn't look great.

https://www.globalrightsindex.org/en/2023/countries

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nestlé has several B Corp certified entities. While some of the B Corp certified may be well intentioned, many just use it for marketing and greenwashing.

[–] thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, it's a point of contention and much discussion. I agree. I think overall it's worth pursuing.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

While it may not guarantee how ethical a company is, getting B Corporation status seems as good of an indicator as anything I’ve come across. I figure if Patagonia is willing to certify with them, maybe its legit? Here’s a link to their search page.

Oh, nice! I see Ben & Jerry's on there, I guess that's no surprise. And we do use Seventh Generation products, so that makes me feel good.

Unfortunately, I'm guessing there are no major retailers like Walmart or Target, so we're still kind of trapped into supporting union-busting retail behemoths in some way, unless you're fortunate enough to live somewhere with more options.

[–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most Giant grocery stores around the DC area are unionized. It’s not much but it’s a start.

https://www.ufcw.org/actions/campaign/giant-union/

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 6 points 9 months ago

That's not being pro-union. That's just being unionized.

There is no such as a pro-union corporation, even from a purely capitalist perspective, the desire to maximize profit will always be at odds with the worker's desire to maximize compensation.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s time to get honest with ourselves about our motivations and lack thereof and get on with doing the dirty work of manifesting a happier timeline for all of us.

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

Okay but hear me out: their spinach dip is really good.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everyone just needs to sit down for two days to remind everyone else what the phrase ESSENTIAL WORKER means.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

I wonder if this will backfire with a massive general strike and a resurgence of unions? I heard there was a general strike planned in a few years. But probably nothing is going to happen the right-wing propaganda is very strong and ingrained now in the US.

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

I’m gonna boycott them harder, which since I don’t go into TJ’s, is gonna more or less the same from the outside.