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[–] moon_crush@lemmy.world 115 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You see, we don’t want to actually do anything about the border, we just want to yell about it. — Rs

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Republicans for the last four years and more:

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Republicans since, at the very latest, Obama took office.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Technically they don't give a shit, mostly. They just want their voters to be mad.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 106 points 9 months ago

"Senator, is this deal dead, effectively?” Fox News’s Laura Ingraham asked Hawley Thursday evening.

“I hope so,” Hawley said. “It should be. If it’s not dead yet it should be dead. There is absolutely no reason to agree to policies that would further enable Joe Biden.”

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 105 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Of course. Hawley is a traitorous coward.

Republicans would rather tank the country than pass good law under a Democratic president.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And they have on more than one occasion. It blows my mind that anyone could think of them as the fiscally responsible party. Then again, they also pretend to be the party of morality, so that all tracks.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are fiscally conservative in name only.

This just happened in my state when Democrats wanted to provide breakfast and lunch for students. A Republican said "But we can hire more teachers!"

Someone asked, "So you would support a bill using this money to hire more teachers?"

You can imagine his response.

These assholes use these excuses to get in the news and get in sound bites. They should never be trusted by themselves.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

They are fiscally conservative in name only.

Just look at the deficit/surplus numbers, by party. It's plain as day.

The party of fiscal responsibility loves to crow about irresponsible spending until they're the ones doing it.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If the Dems agreed to a Republican law, the Republicans would probably filibuster their own law.

[–] Xiaz@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That is what happened here. Republicans came to the table and said “we will give you Ukraine aid if we get a border deal”. Biden undercut progressives and started making offers that Republicans wanted for Ukraine aid and to put his name on the border deal. So Republicans took their ball and went home.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Right, the entire point was to make their fake border crisis seem legitimate by placing it in the same rhetorical box as a genocide in Ukraine. And super Saiyan Biden called their bluff like a boss.

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[–] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago

Here is the key part the whole article is about:

“Senator, is this deal dead, effectively?” Fox News’s Laura Ingraham asked Hawley Thursday evening.

“I hope so,” Hawley said. “It should be. If it’s not dead yet it should be dead. There is absolutely no reason to agree to policies that would further enable Joe Biden.”

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because they are complete shitstains?

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are so weak. There was bipartisanship until Trumpler criticized the bill. The GOP has no spine.

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Honestly if the RNC had just put its foot down in 2016 and said "no, we will not be associated with Trump because the man is a fucking idiot" they would have eaten the loss in 2016, but would probably be in a much better place electorally now.

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 36 points 9 months ago

Well sure. They want to campaign on it. It’s not as if they really want to end the availability of undocumented labor, too… definitely don’t want that. I mean, which industries depend on the 8-10 million people working in the US illegally? Their goal is to campaign on it, and keep immigrants marginalized so their buddies can keep screwing legal workers and taking advantage of undocumented ones.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 30 points 9 months ago

This isn't a surprise if you've listened to conservatives talk amongst themselves.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The GOP wants to rule, not govern.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

Like when he spilled the GOP strategy to use the repeal of Roe to further sort voters and get a GOP advantage in the Electoral College: https://www.businessinsider.com/josh-hawley-overturning-roe-v-wade-help-republicans-electoral-college-2022-6

What a dumbass.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could it be because they're not genuinely interested in governing? I'm not gonna read the article because I already know the answer. Fuck the GOP.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Could it be because they’re not genuinely interested in governing?

The Border Crisis is predicated on US Senators shrugging their shoulders and insisting there's nothing to be done. This helps defer more power to the courts (where they were more than eager to govern by stacking the bench with far-right white nationalists) and to the border states (where guys like Abbot can poke a drowned kid with a stick under a giant "Mission Accomplished" banner to look tough on crime).

As soon as Trump is back in the White House, you can guarantee they'll produce all sorts of sadistic legislative reforms that they can ram through a flimsy Democrat opposition.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The republican traitor swine must be dealt with in the harshest possible manner allowable by law.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They killed it? That's odd, Schumer just announced they'll be voting on it next Wednesday!

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the vote is going ahead but unfortunately

Speaker Mike Johnson reportedly warned it would be "dead on arrival."

Article here.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

MAGA "Moses Orange Ass Kisser" Mike Johnson reportedly warned it would be “dead on arrival.” With offer any reason why, other than stinky orange said so

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The GOP in general seem to be very ineffective civil servants.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Their purpose is to destroy the government. They have repeatedly said this since the 1980's.

Can we stop being surprised?

[–] ckellyusa@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Is it legally possible to recall all of Congress and Senate and demand all new representatives?

[–] force@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The US doesn't have dissolution of congress, no

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Get out and vote.

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