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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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Since it seems to be a common question for many new users.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Make a tiktok dance explaining it, that'll teach the young'uns, at least

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More effective would just be making the site easier to use for newcomers, particularly tackling the onboarding and community discoverability.

Some straightforward ways I can think of would be apps assigning users randomly to a good general instance (like lemm.ee, vlemmy.net, or lemmy.one) that isn't extremely overloaded when registering

and integrating lemmyverse.net's functionality into lemmy itself, cuz not being able to see a list of all communities and their true member count/activity in Lemmy itself is a huge blow to user experience.

[–] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't go as far as automatically assigning users to (random) instances, as some people might really want to use the one they've selected for a number of reasons. OTOH, the registration page could offer alternatives ("instead of registering here how about one of these instances, that is currently looking for more users and will have lower loads/latency", etc.). The default could lead people to some other instance, but always with the option to stay where you are. Of course it would only suggest instances that are federated with the one you're trying to join (if the admins removed the others there was a reason for that...) or even having admins fill in a list of "preferred instances" that could have a higher priority in the suggestions list?

[–] OtakuAltair@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'd of course be able to select instances, I just meant having a random good one selected by default when registering.

By good I mean one that's not too massive, isn't defederating popular instances, and isn't a questionable one that's likely to be defederated itself.

And I don't think they should explain too much, new users are easily scared away.

[–] InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed. The more frictionless it is, the better! Even giving the impression of some complexity will drive people away.

[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Think of instances (lemmy.world, kbin.social, sh.itjust.works, etc.) like planets. Each planet contains cities (or ~~subreddits~~ communities). Most of these planets are federated meaning that if you were born on one planet (have a login) then you can travel and participate the galaxy of cities and planets. If a planet defederates, then you can no longer travel there if you were not from there.

[–] ophy@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the major difference between something like Lemmy vs Kbin, etc., compared to just two different Lemmy "planets"?

Also, how do other platforms in the fediverse fit into this analogy? Something like Mastodon, would that be considered another galaxy? Is there any travel between these or do they require the birth of a new fedinaut within that galaxy to interact with those worlds?

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Mastadon is like a galaxy of federated planets that can speak/travel to Lemmy planets when they want to, but lemmy can't really understand anything they say to each other and can't really travel to their planets (mastadon is 'people' based like twitter, whereas lemmy is 'subject' based like reddit)

I dont know how kbin fits into this analogy. I think it basically is the same as lemmy and can talk/travel to lemmy but also only understands some mastadon

[–] MarshReaper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What if they defederate so my visa expires and now I am stuck in the spaceport limbo?

[–] MakeChaiNotWar@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you decide to change your "home" planet?

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sign up for a new account at a different instance. While you can transfer your account to another instance in Mastodon, you can't do it for Lemmy right now.

[–] formatc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The best you can do right now is recreate it on another planet. Hopefully someday there will be a way to migrate (or a way to export/import).

[–] Lzwzli@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What is the difference between the All view and the Local view?

If I understand correctly, local only shows your planet and you can participate fully.

All shows the entire galactic federation (though you may only get to sightsee other planets, but not talk to the locals without getting a visa (login credentials for that planet))

[–] ThatGuyFromMichigan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Local view only shows posts hosted on this instance (planet). So only communities hosted on lemmy.world for example.

All view would include posts from other instances as well.

[–] Lzwzli@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So should I have accounts on more than one instance? Which instance has the most communities?

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, where did you get that idea? If you want to view as much random content from everywhere as you can just browse by All. If you want a more curated experience, stick to your subscriptions. Local is sort of a weird limbo unless you're on an instance that has a dedicated topic (like the Star Trek instance, for example).

[–] Lzwzli@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Ok got it.

One interesting thing I found is I have a reddthat.com account and also a lemmy.world account. Using Jerboa, somehow browsing with the reddthat.com account is faster than using the lemmy.world account even if I'm browsing lemmy.world communities.

[–] Doods@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago

Local shows posts posted on your planet, All shows the entire federation (galaxy).

[–] LemmyStartNow@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bushwhack@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

🏅here’s some gold. Get out. 🤣

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

How exactly is a rainbow made?

How exactly does the sun set?

How exactly does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work?

It just does.

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

already done. My instance has pinned an infographic explaining how it works and many others have done similar things

[–] druphis@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

I found it but not where i thought it was

[–] Rikolan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I found that thinking of Lemmy as a bunch of Discord servers really helped. Both have servers and "channels" inside them. Perhaps "The office" meme of "Corporate wants you to find the difference" would be fitting?

[–] SmallAlmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, don't do that. Discord messed up the definition of a "server", you shouldn't use the platform as an example, it will be confusing pretty quickly.

[–] Rikolan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Hmm, perhaps you're right. When it comes to explaining the fediverse itself, that's definitely a no-go. I figured it's just visually easier to grasp it when thinking of Discord.

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