Fucking pay them better instead
this post was submitted on 27 Jan 2024
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Also, don't start unnecessary wars based on lies.
Maybe stop supporting genocide or sumfin
That wouldn't provide enough cannon fodder.
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IN THE NAVY~!
You don't need a G.E.D.~
It's because low level enlisted is paid like shit.
And now they are recruiting from those w/o HS or GED. The people already struggling to find employement.
Poverty recruitment! Yay...
Pay wasn't my son's concern. His concern in 2016 was that Trump would be his commander in chief.
My cousin left the navy for that exact reason. Of course, she actually had to work with Trump, so I imagine that didn’t help.
Gosh, maybe no one wants to support the military industrial complex, since we aren’t getting the American dream anymore.
Their recruitment ads are getting laughably desperate, too--all crazy CGI and sci-fi fantasies aimed at gullible COD nerds. They almost got me (poor kid straight out of high school, I was vulnerable) and haven't stopped chasing me ever since. It's been like 8 years and I still get recruitment material targeted at me, somehow--one of them even texted me like a year or two ago.
Maybe if they paid better, took better care of veterans, and weren't part of a bloodthirsty genocide machine slaughtering innocent people, they wouldn't be having so much trouble.
I guess it's going to take more than a Top Gun sequel.
This seems the right place to post this lecture on "Macnamaras morons". Young men with intellectual disabilities that were drafted to fight in Vietnam. Absolutely disgusting policy and heartbreaking for the families and the drafted men.
Plus a disaster for the army. It reduced its effective force because most of the men drafted with disabilities required a full time buddy to navigate most simple tasks. Literally it failed in every way possible.
Yes, this is covered in the talk as well. In one example, an officer is killed by a macnamara man because he couldn't tell him apart from the enemy, and another where a soldier couldn't grasp the concept of throwing a grenade in a parabola over an obstacle rather than straight ahead.
You want a high number of quality employees? Stop reducing the standards and start increasing pay.
Full fucking stop.
Also, stop making Americans kill innocent civilians in poor countries.
People are a lot more likely to sign up if there's no risk of actual fighting happening. With Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Palestine and potentially China/Taiwan soon I'm not surprised people are reluctant to join.
Joining the military seems much less attractive for people when your country have been fighting in foreign countries for 16 of the last 18 years of your life… who knew?
And if the country in question didn't openly shit on veterans (From a government policy standpoint not the actual populace).
Have they tried subliminal, liminal, and superluminal recruitment?
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Standards Aweigh, my boys, Standards Aweigh!
Surely this will not cause reliability and readiness issues over the next decade.
Swab the poop deck!
Finger the semen!
Oh for sure, that what the Navy needed when I was in. More shitbags.
Yes, the pay is shit, but the benefits are stunning. And it's not like you have to pay for the things a civilian does. Tons of free shit. Start at 18, hang in 20-years, and you're fucking set at 38 years old.
Imagine that. 38-yo, pulling retirement for life, and right at your prime. Best friend in high school joined the Army. Did however many years (single digit), spent the rest in the Guard. Basically fucked off at 39, started consulting for the DoD and fixes/collects classic cars for kicks. He mainly works to finance his hobbies and to stave off boredom. We're 53 this year.
My wife is Filipina, all those girls married military guys. There's a total of 2 of us in the whole gang that never served. Those guys are long retired and riding high.