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Why billionaires should take the lead and declare their own emissions cutting targets (theconversation.com)
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[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Billionaires will not do this. They will make excuses about carbon footprint and sharing their private jets with their friend's cats.

Billionaires do not give. They take. And eventually they want to look like they give. So they give to what they want to appear to be.

But 99.999% of billionaires won't give away anything other than ill-informed opinions.

And anything we frame to them will be thought of in terms of:

  1. what do we know; we are not billionaires
[–] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 8 points 10 months ago

We, the billionaires, propose reducing our carbon footprint by -200%

Yup, I expect nothing good from them

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. No volunteer bullshit.

First, Tax every dollar they make over a billion at 100%.

Second, mandated limits for all companies and products.

[–] hex_m_hell 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you misspelled "million"

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No. A billion is fine.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago

Eliminating billionaires is the only thing worth talking about

[–] blazera@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago

This would send a signal to the world that leaders really are serious and counteract the widely held perception that others aren’t willing to change.

Jee its like wealthy people genuinely do not care about climate and perceptions are accurate.

[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

Why Foxes Should Take The Lead in Guarding The Henhouse

[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Best joke of the day.

[–] flango@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 10 months ago

Exactly !!

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I prefer the proletariat take the lead and start cutting a little off the top of the billionaires shoulders.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's weird to me that billionaires are not actively campaigning to solve climate change.

I, personally, could happily die aged 87, on a clean planet, surrounded by family, on a small expensive boat.

Rather than at 67, on a mega yacht, in a toxic wasteland, surrounded by the bodies of dead body-guards.

It doesn't seem like a really challenging choice, to me.

It's not rocket science to see where this trend line leads. We should all cooperate to fix this shit, now, using laws and science.

[–] wanderingmeomeo 3 points 10 months ago

Eh, they don't care precisely because they believe they have the privilege to shield themselves, and their descendants from environmental catastrophe. Luxurious fallout bulkers are built right now to do just that: protect themselves and their children from iminent threats, be it mob riots or tsunami or nuclear fallout. They don't give a shit about the rest of us, and why would they? What do they have to gain from caring about us, it's just not in their interest to do that when they could afford to survive through this and we don't. They've already won the logic of the free market in a bloodthirsty, capital-centric world then surely they earned their superiority, and their place as the true, deserving heirs of the Earth reborn. Looking through their eyes, it's just natural selection.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Rich people are never going to limit themselves. Being rich means the freedom to do whatever you want. Rich enough and you can ignore pretty much all laws.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I'm pretty sure emissions cutting targets are a scam. Most targets are gonna fall short and CEOs will issue a bland apology. I don't think these targets were ever intended to be reached.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Anyways, now that the we let the kid in the back of the class who has no fuckin clue what reality is like…

Who’s hungry?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Billionaires are, by default, sociopaths.

This article may as well plead for help from extraterrestrial forces. They might have better luck.

[–] Octospider@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires are not leaders. They are takers. They must be forced via the law, otherwise they will do nothing besides further enrich themselves beyond their already obscene levels of wealth.

[–] hex_m_hell 1 points 10 months ago

Billionaires somehow embody both the worst behaviors of toddlers and the worst behaviors of most adults, without having any of the redeeming qualities of either.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Why emissions should take the lead and declare their own billionaires cutting targets

Not quite, but it still makes more sense than the propaganda article. Unless Emissions is an activist group.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Nice try, Boom Supersonic