Think of it as fortuitous timing. Reddit is the old internet. Lemmy is the new world. You are one of its early movers. Come fill this place.
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Hehe, the actual "old internet" resembles the fediverse of today, it's what we thought the internet was supposed to be back then. Once corporations found the internet, we got the bullshit we have today.
I'm still a little concerned what happens once instances start getting real traffic though.
Same, but I am optimistic that decentralization will lead to better options for dealing with the problems as they happen.
Might be unpolished, but at least it is ours.
More instances will need to spin up. People aren't used to having choice so it'll confuse them at first. Same thing with Linux distributions, people aren't used to having choice so they don't know how to go about comparing what's on offer. They'll accept making choices at the food market, but are too confused when it comes to OS's and social media, lol.
Too true.
On the plus side, many spurned app-developers seem to be checking out Lemmy and kbin as well.
History repeats itself. The fediverse is going to go downhill too once it gets big enough for corporations to notice it. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Except the code is open source, no matter how many corps invade the Fediverse, there will always be an option.
Sure, but it'll be the same story all over again. The big platform will be ruined and the alternative option will be smaller and therefore not as good (since user base directly contributes to quality when it comes to community-based platforms; it's the users who post all the content, so fewer users = less content).
Eh, don't be so sure.
Email is often drawn as something similar to the fediverse. ... but if you've ever tried to run a small Mailserver, you'll quickly find that "the big corps" have created a walled garden that'll keep the "small fish" out.
It's all based on what the big players view as your "reputation". This is based on proprietary metrics (usually how many emails you send), but your reputation will determine if the email is delivered or not.
You can find more information here.
... but the point is that one big corps consolidate and reach the size (in terms of traffic/content) like Hotmail, Gmail, yahoo, etc - they will not hesitate to squeeze out the smaller fediverse fish to force them into paying to use the bigger pond.
Sadly ... this is just business as usual.
And users will facilitate that process by glomming on to certain instances thinking that it matters to which they belong
I've been pondering this very reason. It's compelling for me to make my own instance so I have my own little slice of fediverse to call my own, and have access to the greater picture of it too.
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JOIN MY WEBRING!
Maybe the Fediverse's logo should be a little animated gif a of a construction worker.
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"Webring".... good lord, that takes me back. :)
We should call the fediverse Webrings 2.0
"Old Internet" - I like it!
The old internet was great. I had a lot of fun with the local bbs, irc, and telnet talkers. It was a simpler time.
Reddit became part of the shitty second season / crappy sequel era of the internet.
Also, can we not call the fediverse "Lemmy"? It's.a disservice to what we all are vying for here and sets us up to land right back into the same bullshit.
Reddit is the old internet.
Ehhh.
I'd timeline it something like this:
Interaction was on non-Web-based systems, mostly distributed
This was mostly pre-2000s and tended to go into decline in the 1990s or 2000s as Web-based platforms focusing on ease of use picked up users. Many of these were distributed.
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Usenet (decline as a discussion forum dating to maybe late 1990s, though lots of pirated information is still transferred via it)
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IRC, peaking around 2003 according to WP
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Email (peaked later, in 2009, according to WP. Obviously still pretty healthy compared to the above two.
People tend to shift towards interacting with each other on large websites; these tend to later acquire mobile apps to cater to smartphone users.
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Facebook
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YouTube
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Twitter
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Reddit (though a fair number of third-party clients did exist)
If the Fediverse manages to pick up a lot of people, it's probably somewhat-closer to the first phase.
IRC was great back then. The other day I jumped on Undernet because I was feeling nostalgic. It's still running but didn't have much activity. The fact that it still exists made me smile.
Yeah, I did more-or-less the same on each of the Big Three networks. Not that they're Reddit alternatives, but I thought that I'd at least take another look. They are still churning away, but the userbase is far smaller than it used to be.
Old, Centralised Internet
Unrelated, but love the username, even though I never finished the series.
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15 years on reddit for me. Exclusively old.reddit.com and apollo for most of that. That site is dead to me now.
I just feel bad for the developer. Years spent developing an app for it to be worthless. That has got to be deflating.
Depends how you define 'worthless'. In the case of Apollo, it certainly wasn't financially worthless for him. And just to be clear, I have no issue with a quality app developer making money doing what they do.
I mean, actual take-home-pay aside from running Apollo, I have no doubt that Christian will be head-hunted like all hell from so many tech companies. I bet his future is solid gold after this. =)
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Me too. RIP two best apps. Reddit is dead to me.
Well the good news is that the RIF dev is working on an app for Tildes. So god-willing at least it will stick exist in some form.
Hopefully Tildes stops the invite only thing.
I understand it for them. They're a slower, more mature forum - they don't want to be Reddit. I've got an account there and I enjoy my time there, but I've been using Kbin instead of Reddit more often.
It's probably just so they can build up a fanbase then open once they have enough high-quality users. I guess it's to stop an Eternal September situation.
For me, it was JoeyforReddit on Android. What an excellent app! I was able to read at length because I could select my own font, sizes and color. It made for very easy reading on my eyes.
I love being here but am hoping for apps for these new socials. I cannot do the sans serif fonts without eye pain. I think the reading flow isn't smooth. So improvements needed and will be well received.
Nice to see you all here.
I'm genuinely sad. Not to be dramatic, but there were times where Reddit saved my life. Seeing the number of comments and posts I had made while I was scrubbing my account hit me harder than I thought it would.
This was my sentiment two weeks ago, and I made an "is anyone else sad?" post.
It eventually devolved into a "ding ding, the witch is dead!" situation!
but there were times where Reddit saved my life.
Yep, if it weren't for their stopsmoking sub, I'd probably be dead today.
It's sad, but it seems to me you adapted to the fediverse, I see you on my frontpage every time I check it, great content, good job!
Thanks!
Yep. Sucks.
Artemis and Memmy are both Apollo inspired
I was always an old.reddit.com user on both desktop and Android so I didn't think the loss of the apps would make too much difference to me.
Yeesh was I wrong; you can already see the falloff in content over there now.
And I am really sick of seeing John Oliver pics.
@Girlparts I'm running PowerDelete Suite right now and it is very bittersweet for me. 12 years of heavy participation, poof, gone like dry leaves in the breeze.
Although reddit apps are dieing, many great apps for lemmy have popped up or are being worked on.
I felt this, but as the end of the month drew nearer and I adjusted to the idea of losing Reddit more, it has actually felt like a really cathartic process for me. Using PowerDeleteSuite on my profile, creating a new one here, searching for new communities within it. I honestly think this change will be a net positive for me personally. Reddit was absolutely swamped in noise and low quality content, it had been for years. A communal shift into a new world, that holds different values at the forefront, and by default (smaller, federated communities) content quality should improve. It reminds me a little of the old message board days.
I'm just waiting on a kbin app that goes at least some way to being as good an experience as Apollo was, as I'm mostly a mobile user.
I uninstalled RIF. For old time's sake I fell asleep last night browsing many year old threads on r/tolkienfans. Truly relaxing, ad, clutter free, just text, just reading. I hate the idea of a world without that.
I was thinking about exactly this last night. I feel like the apps we used (12 years on Reddit, with RIF for as long as I remember) were Reddit. The apps and the way we customized them created our own little Reddit universe. I'm sad for all the devs that worked on their applications and put so much work into them also. But I've been off Reddit for a couple of weeks and I absolutely do not miss it.
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