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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago (45 children)

They got a pass for taking pot shots at Israel, because that's an internal regional conflict. Shooting at civilian trade ships in one of the most important shipping lanes on the planet is a completely different thing. We're not watching gas prices skyrocket, a resurgent Russia, a global economic downturn, etc. just because some religious fanatics are throwing a temper tantrum.

The Houthis were warned repeatedly to cut that shit out, and they didn't listen. These are the consequences.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

As Germany and Japan can tell you, "Don't fuck with the boats"

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (25 children)

Can someone explain to me how this is "A Breach of Yemeni Sovereignty"? It seems like these actions are supported by the internationally recognized government in Yemen. (I'm not asking about the validity of these actions, or the horrendous effects of them. Just the sovereignty question)

Also, is this the interviewee? It appears she is a language and literacy assistant professor who happens to be Yemeni American, not an expert on the Yemen war, international law, or anything else relevant to these events.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (7 children)

It is in no way a breach of Yemeni authority. th government has no control over the territory in question, and it is being used to make repeated military strikes against US military and international civilian targets. This is entirely legal and justified under both US and international law. I’m just surprised it took this long.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Ansar Allah movement controls the territory where 80% of Yemeni population lives and enjoys mass public support. The fact that burger empire and its vassals refuse to recognize sovereignty and right to self determination of other nations just further exposes the moral bankruptcy of the west.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 6 points 10 months ago

these actions are supported by the internationally recognized government in Yemen.

Do you mean the US attacks are supported by tye Yemen government? Do you have a source for that handy?

And great investigation into the interviewee, that kind of critical thinking is extremely important.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Sovereignty carries with it responsibilities, these include exerting conrol over territory claimed, and maintaining territorial integrity. If some external or internal force operates with impunity in your territory, you lose sovereignty over that territory. It doesnt nessecarily mean they gain sovereignty though, although that can be one posdible outcome.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (30 children)

Israel: bombs and invades Palestine

Palestine fighting back is wrong.

Yemen: bombs ships serving Israel

America fighting back is... right?

I feel bad for American voters. The last time military action was taken without congressional approval it led to a 20 year war resulting in a million dead Iraqis and the Taliban government back in power in Afghanistan (among other completely preventable atrocities, like this).

The hypnotism of American exceptionalism is requiring an almost lethal dose of ignorance to continue to work.

Edit: Wrong. Congress approved military action against Afghanistan and Iraq. They were lied to by the Bush administration but they did in fact approve both.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wrong. Congress approved military action against Afghanistan and Iraq. They were lied to by the Bush administration but they did in fact approve both.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 5 points 10 months ago

That's right, thanks for correcting me.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let me guess what the other 3 were: W Bush, Obama, Trump. This is hardly surprising.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Almost like the US has a hard on for the Middle East. Coinciding with the end of the Cold War.

I wonder why...

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (7 children)

The Houthis do not care about Palestine. They are incited by Iran and Russia to disrupt global trade, but are saying they're defending Palestine just for PR points.

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

The Houthis... Who have been bombed for literally a decade by US-backed and US-funded forces with US weapons in the Arabian Peninsula...

Are we talking about the same Houthis?

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

maybe if yemen actually did something about the houthis.....

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Oh people tried to do something about the Houthis. In fact, they starved Yemeni children to death to hurt the Houthis. Turns out that only made them more popular.

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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know it's not funny, but it almost seems like it's some weird tradition at this point

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