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[–] randombit@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve always been confused why Google keeps Waze and Maps completely separate. Google Maps interface with Waze crowd sourcing would be killer.

[–] PurpleReign@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're separate because Waze has a reputation of giving more "aggressive" routing, and has a social aspect to it. Stuff that really doesn't belong in Google Maps.

[–] Ugetsu@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's aggressive routing? Like more prone to induce road rage?

[–] dsigned@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And through quiet neighborhood communities where people are out in the streets playing with the kids, walking the dog or getting a run in.

Someone in my neighborhood got hit while walking their dog by someone using Waze.

[–] CycliCynic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Be careful of confirmation bias and the availability heuristic. One irresponsible person does not define the masses.

[–] space@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Like making you take an extra 10 turns, take a longer route, and drive on too-narrow roads, to potentially save only several minutes of being stopped in traffic.

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My parents: I don't trust Google. That's why I use Waze.

[–] MoonRocketeer@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Last year me: I don't trust Reddit, that's why I use old.Reddit.

[–] tenet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I would immediately stop using Maps if I had to deal with any sort of social media infiltration. I already stopped using it in favor of Apple Maps if I have to do transit routing (Apple's a bit more accurate with timetables).

[–] MoonRocketeer@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

They never should have been allowed to buy it in the first place.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

I've long wondered how much longer Google would maintain two different mapping apps. It's long seemed like Waze acted as a beta test of Google Maps experiments, but I think it's starting to outlive our digital overlords' usefulness

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry, it will be on killedbygoogle.com soon

[–] Exilfranke@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Which, in this particular case, wouldn't be a bad thing. Just integrate the community aspects into Google Maps, make them optional.

[–] mintyfrog@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google Maps is a good general maps app, but Waze is really good at one thing only: driving. In Waze you can share your drive, look for gas stations along the way (with prices and travel time), use toll passes, and get a personalized ETA based on your driving.

Google has had the chance to implement these features into Maps for the 10 years it has owned Wazd but just hasn't, and I don't think they will. At least not all of them.

[–] nick_mcmanus@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do all these in Maps (minus toll passes). I'm not sure how an ETA could be personalized (I don't use Waze) but Maps is pretty accurate with ETAs as is.

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure how an ETA could be personalized

In Germany for example there are large sections of the highway with no enforced speed limit. Depending on the traffic, I can easily speed with 200 km/h. Do I? Well, that will depend. At least in the past I did. So the prognosis when I will arrive on a route with mostly highways would be highly different for me than for someone who prefers to drive 120 km/h.

Obviously the other way around is the same: even when 130 km/h are the allowed maximum, I could legally drive 100km/h (or even less). If the software calculated my time of arrival by assuming I will speed to the maximum, it will be wrong.

--> Personalization.

[–] anon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

at this point it doesn't matter, but the fact that they were allowed to buy it is a travesty.

Waze was the only app with the capilarity to get enough mapping data to be competitive.

Google Maps' pricing for their API is insane and there's no viable alternative outside the USA.

They bought it to kill it.

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Waze has other features that Maps is missing.

Waze is the only routing software I know that can handle vignettes.

[–] space@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are vignettes in the context of driving?

[–] okiloki@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

They allow you to drive on certain roads in some countries.

[–] SemioticStandard@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes me sad that people are losing their jobs. Somewhere out there are real people with real families wondering what they’re going to do if they’re out of a job. It just sucks.

The secret ingredient is crime

[–] Moonwalk@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

If google implemented the social aspects of Waze into maps it would be the ultimate maps app. I understand that the nature of google maps is different than Waze's, but maybe including a social mode in maps that shows all the information that Waze shows would make it a million times better.

[–] Adramis@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

~~Embrace~~ Buy, ~~extend~~ do nothing with it, extinguish.

[–] Dusty@l.dustybeer.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~Just a reminder that Wyze Bridge exists. It's great for self hosting your wyze camera stream. It also works with Home Assistant~~

Wyze, Waze, Tomato, Tomahtoe

I read good. Sorry about that, wrong app.

[–] koreth@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is about Waze, the mapping/navigation app.

[–] Dusty@l.dustybeer.com 3 points 1 year ago

Holy cow you're right, sorry about that. That'll teach me to read good.

[–] Bats@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago
[–] fstrelok@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

Surprised it took this long honestly. For my navigation needs, Magic Earth works great, and does include crowd sourced reporting similar to Waze.

[–] fbievan@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

Not surprising

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