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Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive’s broad immunity to criminal prosecution.

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This might be the dumbest thing he could’ve done. The judges are going to freak out about this, and just say no. That one judge, during questioning, was like, are you fucking kidding me?

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

After ~~months~~ years of media coverage about Trump and his stupid actions and stupid mouth, he's yet to see any real consequences. It doesn't surprise me that he keeps raising (lowering?) his own bar.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So let me get this straight. This fucking idiot is arguing that Joe Biden can order Seal team 6 to wipe out the entire Trump family, and then be covered by presidential immunity? Interesting thought process there.

[–] kitedemon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 10 months ago

According to their logic, Biden could order Seal Team 6 to kill Trump and then immediately resign, and he wouldn’t be able to be convicted.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but enough Democrats would actually hold him accountable to actually impeach him. The same can't be said of Trumps coterie.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As has been pointed out, he would have to immediately resign. Which would eliminate the impeachment option, because you can’t impeach someone who isn’t holding office.

[–] hangukdise@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

He could do it one or two days before ending his term hahaha

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Obama literally ordered the assassination of Osama Bin Ladin and no one is trying to persecute him for murder, so I think Trump is 100% correct in his thought process.

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Thanks for pointing out to us that you’re unable to differentiate the distinctions between mass murdering terrorists and political rivals.

Or for that matter, the difference between persecution and prosecution.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Political rivals are terrorists if you're radical enough

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Good point. I guess all of Biden’s bases are covered, should Trump’s arguments hold water with the courts.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

distinctions between mass murdering terrorists

Pot calling the kettle black lmao

All presidents are terrorist mass murderers it is part of the job.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Imagining Dark Brandon going "Well, this problem just solved itself..."

[–] zeusbottom@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hey hey hey, this is missing important context: Only if that rival were impeached first.

… but seriously, how did we get here as a nation

[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago

We kept putting idiots in positions of power. And it went to their tiny brains.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Voting for the lesser of two evils.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're claiming he can't be charged unless he's impeached by the House, convicted by the Senate, and removed from office. Everyone is focusing on it he kills a political rival, but no one's thinking it through - they're acting like it'll be just one murder, but he has no impulse control.

He kills his enemies, then he kills anyone in the House who looks like they'll vote for impeachment - they may or may not need to vote in replacement Representatives. If he's still impeached, he kills any Senators who look like they'll vote to convict (again, they may need to vote in replacement Senators). If he's convicted, he can send his assassins against the people who would remove him from office.

So essentially, be gets to do what he wants until he's stopped, but he can just keep murdering Senators and Representatives until either there isn't a quorum or everyone is too scared of being assassinated for vote against him.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

He does hold Russia, China and North Korea in High regards (well, maybe not North korea anymore, after they stopped asskissing)