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[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Used to work at a pretty secure place. Each button had a small screen on it, and the numbers were randomized. So apparently this is an actual concern.

[–] WhatsUpDoc@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Scramble pads. We have them where I work. Damn password can change a few times a week without warning. Gone for lunch? Well good luck getting back in until reception comes back to tell you the new code.

[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

Had this once at a retail store while paying. Entering PIN without muscle memory. .... Weird and almost made 3 errors which would have blocked my card.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Those also prevent observers from being able to learn the code by watching someone type it in from a distance.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

That's smart, but probably frustrating as an authorized user.

[–] kzhe@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

iirc this is a GrapheneOS feature too

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I've seen this on payment terminals too. It's real annoying when you're used to do the same motion all the time. But safer obviously.

[–] Ibex0@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I wonder if this is a problem for dyslexia?

[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can even tell that the 1 is touched more often on the top, meaning it is 'the top' one. Then 9 on the top as well, meaning you probably came from the top when moving 1 to 9. Then 7 is damaged on the left, probably because you come from the 9 on the right. Then apparently everyone just punches the shit out of 0 I dunno.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I bet everyone remember the first two digits correctly but once in a while makes mistakes in the last two digits. So first two digits gets pressed more often. Although I don't see any discoloration in other buttons, so maybe not.

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

All these comments and speculation on what the code might be. But it's irrelevant.

The light is green, the door is already open

[–] JustinAngel@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plot twist: it explodes after 3 wrong guesses.

[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

It looks like it already has a couple of times already.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Happy 54th birthday soon

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

hmmm, I think I might "wear" out some numbers on my pad. Not the ones used but if I make it look this obvious I should drastically increase the resistance to general attack as no one could pass this attack up.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The newer keypads make you touch two random numbers before you can enter the code, to prevent this very problem.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 26 points 10 months ago

I aint paying for fancy keypads.

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

The 90s.....

The SEVENTEEN 90s, that is...

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Plot twist : code is 8253, ... and prints are false flags :o)

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This works.

In Eve Online there was this big war, and a big ship was being built in some station. So everyone gathered around the station to protect it, and of course the enemy came after it. A huge battle ensued and in the end the station was destroyed successfully.

Except the ship wasn't in that station, it was being built at another station, the defenders just mislead them by protecting a random empty station. The ship finished its construction later that month.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Shit like this makes me wish I had a headstart on PC gaming. That stuff sounds so fun to take part in

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Go run doen the eve online stories. People have gone under cover in enemy groups for years, just to rise in the ranks until they can just plunder the whole org for the equivalent of tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I think there was even a guild in the game the specialized on long con espionage called like "the crimson rose" or some such.

The game itself is basically excel, but the "player generated" environment is an epic story generator.

[–] HenryWong327@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, EVE hasn't gone anywhere, it still has a large and active playerbase, there's nothing stopping you from joining now.

[–] puppy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I believe this technique is called a "honeypot" in cyper security. Im addition, the honeypot would also gather as much info as possible about the visitors i.e. any potential hacker.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Nah, you definitely have to use one or two of the worn ones just so it's impossible to narrow down which ones.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago

Hint: the beginning of time

[–] EmperorHenry@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago

I once knew a guy that was really stupid. He got angry very quickly and had no patience for anything.

He had a lock on the button for his garage door opener that was a slider switch, he caved it in because he pressed it really hard instead of just looking and seeing that it's a slider switch

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's still 256 possible combinations. Isn't it?

[–] triclops6@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago

Assuming 4 digit password it's 4 factorial, 24 combinations

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

unless the length is fixed, e.g. 4 chars (in which case there can't be repeating characters)

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Obviously this isn't on Liberty Island or 0 1 4 and 5 would be all worn down.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bonus: Address of the building is 1790.

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Or year of construction or company start was 1970.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

That was how the code to my grandpa's ward worked. If you could remember the street address, you knew the code to get out of the Alzheimer's wing.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s definitely the worst keypad wear I’ve ever seen :D

They actually make versions these days where a display randomises the numbers, so that it doesn’t form a discernible wear pattern.

Of course, you do have to wonder if this is actually a thing to be worried about, or rather something we all ‘know’ from spy movies. Usually the easiest way to bypass these is to just walk in after someone…

[–] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Guy in highlighter vest:"Hey buddy can you hold the door?"

90% success rate

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I used to geocache a LOT years ago, don't do as much now. But it was crazy how much people would ignore whatever weird thing you were doing if you had a high-vis vest, clipboard, and hardhat. I used to joke you could damn-near walk in anywhere and nobody would blink.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I learned that while buying tobacco products while underage.

If you walk in and act like you do this everyday you're less likely to get carded.

Act like you belong

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It’s silly but it’s true. Especially if you’ve got a package, a ladder, etc. Nobody’s going to hassle a dude carrying a ladder because he’s clearly Doing Something Important.

When it’s a regular old apartment building you don’t even need that. You can just wait until someone walks in and just follow them through. Happens all the time. Which is why I make sure to always pull security doors closed behind me. I’d rather not be the cause of a break-in or worse.

[–] robolemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it 010119700000 or 197001010000?

[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Start of the Unix epoche, everybody could have social engineered that. 😁