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Filipino nurses for Ohio-based company say they have been forced to pay thousands in fees after signing training contracts

Filipino nurses are calling for the US’s top labor watchdog to review controversial “stay or pay” training repayment agreement provisions that have left them facing lawsuits and thousands of dollars in fees after they quit their jobs.

Training repayment agreement provisions (Trap) are contracts employers require workers to sign before beginning a job and stipulate that if a worker leaves the job before a specified time, they owe substantial fees.

Nurses who worked for the Ohio-based CommuniCare Family of Companies, one of the largest providers of post-acute care in the US, say they have been subjected to buyout fees of thousands of dollars when they resign and have been sued by their former employer.

Jeddalyn Ramos, a 30-year-old from the Philippines worked for four months at a CommuniCare-owned short-term and senior rehab facility in Pittsburgh in 2022 and paid $15,555.45 in fees when she quit her job.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Training Repayment Agreement Provisions - TRAP

Yeah, that's not sus at all

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

That is so fucking on the nose, what the fuck.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

ANY job that requires payment for training, application or supplies is a scam. Period.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that should definitely be illegal.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Suing her for $100,000 AFTER she paid $15,000 is the eyebrow raising part. Did they put her through college? Did she get a Batchelors degree? What kind of training is worth $115000 for an aged care nurse?

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

If you view her as ‘their’ employee, and not a human being with free will who owns the right to their own labor, then it makes perfect sense. She “owes the company” not just for the cost of her training, but also the company’s lost productivity’ when she left and they had to replace her… it’s modern day slavery.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We need to get rid of the corrupt healthcare industry, it's embarrassing

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Infuriating.

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago

Its fine, us Americans don't need a healthcare system that anyone can afford, in terms of monetary cost as well as in time terms of huge wait lines for every conceivable kind of basic checkup all the way to critical surgery.

See we have overall great health, can easily afford healthy food, have time to cook said healthy food, we do not have any addiction problems at a large scale, and you hardly ever hear about anyone getting shot, what with guns requiring extensive safety and familiarization courses before you can obtain one.

I look forward to growing old in safety and security as it definitely is not the case that roughly half the country wants to elect a self avowed wannabe dictator who has publicly stated that he is very interested in getting rid of vermin-people and keeping the blood of the nation clean.

(/s if thats somehow necessary)

[–] hark@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

You'd think with how hard the healthcare industry squeezes labor and cuts corners that it would be low cost. Gee, I wonder where all that money is going...

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've never heard of one of these agreements that demanded a reasonable amount for leaving early. They always way overvalue the training or other services like immigration they provide. In my group where I work, brand new people aren't really useful during their first year due to the amount of training and specific domain knowledge they need to acquire. If we don't require this sort of contact, I am doubtful anyone does. Just provide a decent place to work. People will stay.

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Just provide a decent place to work. People will stay.

Exactly. Any employer that intends to provide a fair wage for fair labor doesn't have this kind of bullshit contract. A TRAP clause is simply internentional premeditated abuse, and it should be prosecuted as such in the courts.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I mean if the number sounded like COST price it would sound a lot less predatory. If the financing agreement was separate to the employment (I.e yes, you can leave but you will still owe us the cost of the above on a reasonable payment schedule)

Reading thia article sounds a lot like indentured servitude.

[–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

American hospitals have been treating visa workers like indentured servants for ages now. I for one am glad that some of these folks are fighting back. The healthcare system needs to quit burning-and-turning all of their staff the way they do before the whole system permanently collapses. I hope they find it harder to pull the wool over the eyes of foreign workers in the future.