Agreed. Nobody is interacting with the posts either, just taking up space. Iβd prefer less posts with more engagement.
this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2023
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That's why I unsubed worldnews. Too much bot spam for my liking.
Guh! I just did the same. 10:1 all the posts were from that community. Didn't even realize it's all bot-posted.
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Here is some engagement.
Hmm let me try some of that engagement
Fuck yeah we're doing engagement over here?
This guy engages.
I don't like it. There's no one on the other end, the reason I'm here.
It feels unnatural to me. We don't need to force interaction when we're all here to do it.
Plus I'm still mostly sorting by new. They clog it up.
Edit: it's impossible to sort by new now, because of all those damned lemmit posts!!!
Just block the bot, i don't see their posts anymore
Yea I was just in the process lol me will figure it out!
Oh look at me all snazzy blocking stuff I must be a real boy!
Go Lemmiwinks! Stop Wikileaks! Sorry guys, I donβt know why this reminded me of that South Park episodeβ¦ I donβt like those reposts eitherβ¦ ppl should focus on new original content.
I don't have a problem with bots mirroring Reddit content as long as it limits itself to not overwhelm Fediverse communities with more content than the people subscribing to it can comment on. Bots should ideally keep an eye on that and throttle themselves on that basis.
I think the lemmy instance that's only for reddit reposts is a great way to go about it. You always know what you're in for if you sub anything there, and it's not taking up space on other servers.
Out of curiosity, what Lemmy instances should I be searching up if I DO want reddit reposts in my feed? I haven't been seeing many myself.
lemmit.online is one I know of. Each community is a reddit board. I pulls the subs via RSS so there are no comments, just the original post.
I agree, it feels cheap and pointless. If we wanted Reddit content that badly weβd still be on Reddit.
If we wanted Reddit content that badly weβd still be on Reddit.
Idk why you personally are here, but many migrants (myself included) did NOT leave reddit because we dislike reddit's content; we left because the site is controlled an unaccountable Elon/Zuck wannabe whose every decision the last decade has made the site worse. Getting reddit's content (or something close to it) without contributing clicks to Spez's dreams of a big payday is EXACTLY why I'm here.
I mean, I want the reddit content, I just don't want reddit itself.
TLDR Bots can be good, bots can also be bad. We need to find a balance.
I feel the value of Reddit, Lemmy, and any similar platform does not come from the post itself but (a) the interactions within the comments and (b) the sorting based on votes.
These two features make information here reliable and obtaining reliable information becomes more productive.
For example, an article expresses information verified by a single person or a team, but when that article is posted here many people read it and share their opinion. I can go through the comments and determine how bullshit or not that article is. Also, the comments contain quotes, summaries and relevant information which one would have to spend hours researching. Lastly, when multiple articles are posted on a community sorting allows me to find the articles worth my time.
It does not matter if the post was created by a bot, but whether humans interacted with it.
With all that, I would like to agree with some people here that bots can be a threat. If the content they produce overwhelms the humans interacting with the content.
If human content is buried under thousands of bot posts, noone will interact with it. We need lemmings to feel they are valued by their communities, they shouldn't have to compete with emotionless robots.
This is a super well said take.. I like the part about the worth being in the comments. I agree. I'm fine with bots, just not spam, or reposts of a thread that requires some type of engagement with OP themselves.
Also if I sort by all and new, I'd rather not see a million bot posts before I find a real person. Since this is a small community, we are easily overrun by automation. There's definitely a balance to be had.
And some bots I like, like the tldr bot
So we hate 9gags here too?
Everyone everywhere all at once hates 9gag
I'm fine with reposting stuff like News, where it's relatively impersonal and I'm not necessarily concerned with comments.
But I also like having more in depth conversations on the creative stuff. Just having bots post that feels impersonal.
I guess it depends on the magazine.
This is a good viewpoint I think. News is ok. Not sure how you filter that though. Iβd rather have bots pulling news from direct sources whether that be world events, game news etc rather than Reddit.
I was torn at first but then I realized my gut feeling when I see them is to not upvote or comment on them. So why have them??
Other people converse on posts other than the OP's though, so commenting on a bot post isn't worthless. Personally I feel the bot posts are helping, my bot posts have been decently engaging, some have a lot of discussions in them
I am concerned with comments, but I'm not suggesting we copy those over. The posts are fine, I just wish there was more engagement with them
Yes, this has been irking me too! There is enough "real" content here to keep me happy and interacting. I just scroll past the bot stuff now.
Sorry but I donβt agree with this logic. Smaller communities are more susceptible to drought. Content is a water supply. I moderate a magazine for The Office (woo woo, shout out) and I bring in content from Reddit as often as I can. Itβs a temporary measure to increase the legitimacy of the site.
I agree, as long as it's link to articles and not copying text posts, it's a good measure to help small communities take off.
That's my opinion too. The only thing people come to these type of sites for is the content and community. Link-copying bots improve the former and improve the opportunities for the latter. It's all upsides and no downsides as far as i can see.
I agree with this. As long as it's not too much, and isn't the comments, I think it's fine. I wish there was more engagement, but that will come with time I think
It litters people's feeds with content devoid of interaction that there's no point in interacting with. It funnels them back to Reddit. It is a mistake.
If you can get the content of a post and post it, that's good. RSS bots are cool. If you can pull the image/link and title from reddit and post it you've got a good recipe. Right now I'm seeing a lot of lemmit and other bots just posting straight links to reddit posts, this is a counterproductive waste of time.
HAHA NICE ONE HUMAN. IM TOTALLY NOT A BOT
Reddit addiction is strong.
So far the only users I block are bots that post from reddit. Annoying stuff that is.
I feel like we need to make the opposite happen. We make great posts that are shared on Reddit. Sure the awards that will be given will only profit Reddit, but watching the mods furiously delete the posts will be enough of a reward⦠or, you know. Spite
I haven't quite done so, but part of the modern internet is content sharing, so for like memes, videos, pics, etc. I totally expect it. Think of all the times there was a tweet shared on another platform.
Yeah, by users. We have bots posting just whatever from reddit though.
I've been using a bot for the last 24 hours, only to pull link posts to small communities that need a jump-start. People won't post or stay in a community that has no content, and so far the bot has helped start conversations, and has made the communities more active in just 24 hours.
Once there is enough posting in those communities I'll turn the bot off and focus on a new one. Currently doing this in 3 different communities on lemmy.world, it only posts once an hour, and checks if the link has already been posted.
i haven't tried this yet, but here you go: https://kbin.social/m/BotIt
edit: wow major brain fart. you DON'T want bots. i thought this was like "can we not just use bots?" my bad
I've been using it for the last 24 hours, only to pull link posts to small communities that need a jump-start. People won't post or stay in a community that has no content, and so far the bot has helped start conversations, and has made the communities more active in just 24 hours.
Once there is enough posting in those communities I'll turn the bot off and focus on a new one. Currently doing this in 3 different communities on lemmy.world, it only posts once an hour, and checks if the link has already been posted.
According to mods it's a huge fucking issue. These small instances have hundreds of bots registering. Not surprising that a lot of them are just reposting shit from reddit. Most likely they are astroturfing so it seems like this place is full of bots. Instance moderators need to defedrate from these bit instances as soon as they pop up.
This is partially true, but some of the bots are for creating content to jump-start smaller communities. Those bot owners typically have 1 alt account for the bot, they aren't building 1000 accounts.
There are some instances getting flooded with bot creations though.
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