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This is actually fucking scary.
They also took issue with him being brought back to life as heβd signed a βDo Not Resuscitateβ order years earlier, The Des Moines Register reported at the time.
This sets the precedent that the convict is no longer in possession of their own body and life.
"Death is no escape. You will suffer as long as we want you to."
Welcome to the birth of Hell.
~~I could be wrong, but Iβm pretty sure that is something signed by choice, saying that the prisoner doesnβt want to be resuscitated if they die. I donβt think that is forced on them, but again, I could be wrong.~~
edit: nvm, I get what youβre saying now
Well
Benjamin Schreiber was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in 1996, after clubbing a man to death with the handle of a pickaxe and leaving his body outside a trailer. Schreiber had conspired with the manβs girlfriend to murder him.
I'd be more scared with him free
I mean...;
Benjamin Schreiber was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in 1996, after clubbing a man to death with the handle of a pickaxe and leaving his body outside a trailer. Schreiber had conspired with the manβs girlfriend to murder him.
He took away someone else's body and life first.
Thats the problem with just laws and rights. They have to apply to everyone, even those we feel don't deserve it, otherwise they ain't just.
Laws and rights did apply to him.
Except they didn't if he signed a "do not resuscitate" and they did it anyways.
Are you saying we shouldn't try to be better than him?
People have tried the argument when they were resuscitated. The courts have thrown it out, as the sentence is meant to be their entire lifetime regardless of medical interventions that may artificially extend it. If someone is capable of making the argument, they have not fulfilled their sentence. Also, I think generally if you can be brought back you were not actually dead, you were near death and would have died if not for intervention (one might say only mostly dead and not dead dead).
It would take very poorly written laws that somehow define life to only include a single period of an uninterrupted heartbeat to allow it to work.
If and when somebody is resurrected after three days, the courts might be forced to reconsider.
only mostly dead and not dead dead
Nice reference, bro. That was the second movie I ever bought, on VHS.
Well said. If we ever have the medical advancement of bringing back three-day corpses, we can brainwash the criminals to be good people instead.
I think there are few historical examples where someone was hanged and pronounced dead but then woke up and were pardoned.
That's tragic and really weird
But we are talking about sentenced to prison, not sentenced to death.
This is what Jon Snow did. Obviously real life works the same way
And now my watch has ended.
You finished watching GOT just now?
"life sentence in prison" means he is sentenced for life, so if he gets alive again he would be still with that sentence that is for life. It's not a "sentence until death".
I don't think that the law is ready to deal with zombies and other non realistic scenario
I mean... You can be clinically dead and then revived with cpr and a defibrillator, so not entirely unrealistic.
no. they arent legally dead until they are
If he dies for long enough to complete all the paper work and produce death certeficate then he would be free
Unfortunately the person would not have any papers after, and trying to get papers may send them back to prison
I think so. I read about a guy who stayed dead for couple of years for tax reasons.
(If you get the reference you'll get a high five)
Hey I knew that guy. Used to hang out with Zaphod.
High five!
I believe they come back to "life in prison" .
Not sure how it is in other countries, but I always assumed that a "life" sentence at least in the US just meant anything over 25 years
I think in USA life sentence means until death π€·π»ββοΈ
Not in every state, and many get life sentence with parole chance after X years.
In civilised counties it means indefinite, 20 years minimum and after that reviewed every couple of years. In some countries 25 years is the maximum mandatory sentence you can get, the next level is life.
At least in Canada a "life" sentence is just a really long amount of time. I think 21 years?
EDIT: Looked into it. It's indefinite, only getting a chance to appeal after 25 years.
There was this case in south africa where a prisoner was revived multiple times.