Ask Lemmy

This is written like a desperate list maker from Breitbart needs to make a deadline.

Why not just admit you vote right, hate a subset of people, and want to believe that you are the only person who can be trusted to break the rules?

My list of things I like about liberalism:

• It isn't quite as bad as conservatism.

That's it. That's the list.

And following are my lists of things I like about conservatism and capitalism respectively:

They are really good at providing examples for why civilized society needs socialism.

Can't say much about liberalism or capitalism, but classic Conservatism's emphasis on environmental conservation has always been something I appreciate. It goes to show how far the quote-unquote "G"OP has strayed from its party's original beliefs.

I, weakly, believe capitalism for all its ills is still the best way to run our economies. With serious regulations and a social safety net to make life better for the have-nots. This arguably works "okay" in most places.

Mostly I have yet to see evidence or compelling arguments that other schemes can work well in our time. Go back 500 years, sure, pre-industrial economies worked fine without capitalism. Go forward 500 years, Star Trek, maybe? But not right now.

I like that they appear to be dying out. I just hope we outlast them.

I'm not sure what there is to like, honestly. Capitalism has done an excellent job at making sure that we have homeless and hungry people, despite having more homes than homeless people, and we throw away enough food to feed all of them too. conservative values led to suburban america, which is such an incredible failure in every single way. You can't walk practically anywhere, we don't design infrastructure for pedestrians, and we build anti-homeless architecture anywhere that we do happen to have areas people can take shelter from the elements or sit down in public (because having homeless people visible is bad for business!). You have to pay money to just exist anywhere. I'm fucking tired of it. It inconveniences those of us who have homes, and just want to be able to socialize in public places, and makes existence HELL for those of us without homes.
Liberalism, at best, wants to maintain the status quo, and is never willing to push for change fast enough to stop people from slipping through the cracks. Roe VS Wade was, quite literally, abolished while we had a liberal president. Biden is still funding Israel's genocide.
Capitalism calls for infinite growth in order to please investors... which will stop eventually. Whether we want it to or not. They'll just destroy the planet even more than they already before they get to that point. There's not infinite resources, and the damage we've done to our planet because of industrialization and capitalism is irreversible.
So yeah.
Fuck liberalism, capitalism, and conservatism.

Three flavors of dogshit

From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:

  liberalism
      n 1: a political orientation that favors social progress by
           reform and by changing laws rather than by revolution
      2: an economic theory advocating free competition and a self-
         regulating market

Seems like the first definition is conservative-left. The second definition sounds like capitalism. Honest question here, but what am I missing?

We think that markets are by far the best way of organising most human affairs that involve scarce resources, because they align people’s incentives in ways that communicate where resources can be be used most efficiently, and give people reasons to come up with new ways of using existing resources.

A system is justified if it is the one that best allows people to live the lives that they want to live, or makes them happiest or more satisfied than any other.

Ø (the empty set)

(This, of course, assumes you mean economic liberalism. Social liberalism is all right.)

Does conservatism mean "preserve the way things are"? Things are bad. Things are really bad for a lot of people. Trying to preserve things in such a state is difficult to justify.

Is it "outgroups to bind, in groups to defend"? Well that's obviously a bad framework.

Liberalism: Human flourishing, the expansion of scientific knowledge, recognition of human rights

Capitalism: More resilient to corruption than planned economies

Conservatism: Prevents backsliding and cultural loss, encourages social stability

Not one blessed thing. Conservatives are psychotic morons, liberals are boot lickers, and capitalism is destroying the world.