Evangelical leader accuses pope of creating "division" with LGBTQ+ views
Oh, that's rich, coming from someone who's on the wrong side of pretty much everything.
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Why is there a never ending series of these guys? Pat Robertson finally died and like Hydra there are two more to replace him
You only hear about the lead grifter at any point in time. There's always a bunch of them.
As long as the money is there to grift, people will do so.
His dad, Billy, wrote an impassioned defense of the perpetrators of the Mai Lai massacre. The garbage apple doesn't fall far from the garbage tree.
I went and seen WV Grant work his magic once. I wish I could remember the date so I could order the dvd haha.
His father did the same thing, and he passed the con on down the line.
He told several people that I know personally that they were healed of various problems. Of course, none of them were. I wish I had the balls of James Randi and I would’ve done my best to make a show of it. That’s difficult when you’re with your very religious family all expecting miracles though.
When I told my people of his various scams (fake orphanages in Haiti, tax evasion on his mansions they bought for him), I was accused of planting seeds of doubt that cost them their blessings. Apparently god can even work through a conman and believing is everything.
Great supernatural powers always seem to exist just around the corner. “I heard from a man I trust that magic filled the air and people who had been paralyzed 20 years got up and ran around.” Oh, ohhhhh, well hell, I didn’t know Bobby “Mack Daddy” Hicks was a witness. That changes everything.
I wish I didn’t have a conscience sometimes. It would be easier than ever to run that scam today. I’d make a Facebook account called “God Bible of the Living Jesus” and set up a tent revival. All I’d have to do is scan timelines for “pray for aint Betty. She have leg problem keep her wake all nite. A man.” and hit the stage, “Betty, Betty with the leg problems keeping her up all night! The lord said come see me Betty, get up here! Do you believe you’ll sleep tonight? Do you believe them leeeegggs gonna be healed? OH SHONDRA MAH HYBA MAH HEEP BABA MAKOYA! You’re healed if you believe it Betty! Who just felt the spirit flying all over this tent?!”
Poor Betty would think she just didn’t believe enough and I’d be standing at the bank the next morning with her disability check.
Unfortunately, I love poor Betty and I don’t even know her. Damn my conscience.
Also, Billy Graham's Troubling, Nasty Nixon Moment
The legendary religious leader exposed a nasty side in a 1972 meeting with Richard Nixon.
Christian leader encourages love. Heretics/Pharisees get very angry and call for more hate. And Jesus wept.
Last I remember, Jesus never wept for the Pharisee but instead got angry and invoked the Table Flip meme.
Like this.
(-_- )ﾉ⌒┫ ┻ ┣ ┳
(c'mon he's a demigod, he could totally do this)
Punishment for heresy is excommunication, used to be a fine and or imprisonment and sometimes to be burnt alive. Bible says to warn them twice then ignore them entirely ostracizing them from society. If they were real christens they should be canceling each other for biblical wrong think. Its hilarious that people who dont follow the faith, regularly know more about what the bible says then people who are adamant "followers".
Almost like reading the book exposes a bunch of hypocracy within the organizations that preach it.
They want homophobia. The Pope will not give them that so they are upset.
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Dear Protestants, you get less of a say in Catholicism than I do as an ex Catholic heretic as you tend to know basically nothing about Catholicism. Both of us, alongside lay Catholics, priests, monks, nuns, and even bishops get less of a say in Catholicism than the fucking pope, because he’s the goddamn pope. If you really want to overrule him have an ecumenical counsel that’s respected by the Catholic Church, it’s the only thing aside from a booming voice in the sky that gets to overrule the pope.
Fvck evangelical leaders. Pope should say that.
Catholics are still on the conservative end of the religious spectrum, though, so evangelical leaders make Pope Francis appear even more progressive than he is. They're like the perfect foils for him.
The pope is a jesuit. They usually are scholars and work in science. The pope is a chemist. Jesuit schools teach evolution and all that. Basically looked at like secular liberals by conservative catholics.
The current pope is a Jesuit, and Jesuits are typically among the more progressive Catholics. But Catholics in general are among the more conservative Christians, which is the point the comment you replied to was making.
It's like American Democrats are on the global right wing of politics. Bernie and AOC being more left wing doesn't change the fact that Democrats as a whole are neoliberals.
But Catholics in general are among the more conservative Christians,
In modern US? No. "Non-denominational"/Evangelical Christians tend to be far more conservative on average.
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Evangelicals really shouldn’t be commenting on the pope. They believe that Catholics aren’t Christian (or aren’t true Christians because of the whole icons and praying to the saints things). This guy needs to stay in his lane.
its funny considering catholics were literally the original church, and we ask saints to pray for us like how you would ask your loved ones to pray for you. i dont know why everyone else gets that saints part wrong about us like were worshipping saints
Evangelicals don’t care that they’re wrong. And they believe that the Catholic Church has wandered too far from the ‘original church’ to a point where it’s no longer actually worshiping god, but has been twisted by the devil. So they ‘return’ to how their idea of what ‘the original church’ is instead. They recognize, however that their worship is actually nothing like the original church and despite not having proper biblical support, believe they are actually worshiping the right way. It’s one of the many contradictions they actively hold highly.
This was my experience with evangelicals, which I’m rather sure is rather more expansive than most as I’ve lived all over the country attending several evangelical churches in each place, grew up VERY active with Billy graham ministries and focus on the family, spent my first 4 years of school in the evangelical home school system known as A.C.E., ‘interned’ for teen mania ministries which brought together evangelicals from around the world, all of whom conformed quite directly to this experience, and attended a Christian university where a pre-req was to do an academic deep dive into Christianity which is, unsurprisingly, the catalyst for what got me out… I of course spent more time learning about the evolution of evangelicalism than I did the rest of the denominations as I was continually having my world rocked by how little sense any of the general beliefs actually make and was desperately grasping for anything to settle my worldview back down.
Evangelicals are stupid, they know it, and they revel in their ignorance (faith of a child bullshit taken so far out of any semblance of context).
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But... evangelicals' whole thing is making shit up about things they know nothing about. I say, let 'em shake their fist at this guy. 😜
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The Pope is in the right here.
The Pope allows "blessings" of gay couples but strictly outside of the contexts of anything resembling a marriage and actively opposes actual sanctification of a same sex or transgender marriage. I won't argue it's better than their kick in the face policy they used to have but that kernel of homophobia where they are treated as an illegitimate form of family unit is still alive and well and low key still impacting the worlwide fight to end the precarity around civil same sex unions.
Fighting between "they should be kicked in the teeth" and "they should be shut out in the cold but with a kind word to speed them on their way " is still an everybody the asshole situation.
I would personally love if they decided to ditch the Pauline chapters as their key guiding principles and stop listening to the jerk who canonically hallucinated Jesus after being hit in the head with a rock. Like... When most of your contradictions of Jesus's teachings are from one guy with that particular pedigree maybe give it less weight?
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No fair, him being infallible and all.
I wonder if this guy has ever heard of the reformation.
Someone should nail a note to his door that spells out everything wrong with what he believes and at the bottom a url to a rickroll
The Pope, according to Catholics, is God's chosen mouthpiece here on Earth. The only divisions he could possibly be creating are divisions between who are faithful servants of God and who are sinners. This isn't my opinion, it's in the book they all claim to have read.
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Yeah it's always fun how when these folks disagree with someone else, the pope even, it's the other guy's fault for the disagreement happening. As if the moral universe revolved around them and it really was as simple as if everyone agreed with me there'd be "no division".
Also, there's this
Pope: Who are you to tell me, you heretical non-Catholic!
But seriously, I think the Evangelical leader is just trying to win brownie points from his own flock. "See I am right unlike the heathen Catholics!"
There's no infighting like church infighting. One of them has to be right, right??
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