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No, the innocent civilians being used by Hamas as human shields are not the oppressors. I've never heard anyone who thinks that.
Everyone just wants to get rid of the terrorists and free the hostages.
Everyone except Israel, which would rather kill hostages and civilians instead of negotiate.
They haven't freed a single hostage by force.
The IDF sure love killing civilians though...
Down votes do even less on lemmy than on reddit, and down voting someone never made their point go away.
There is simply no way to think the IDF cares about Palestinian civilians when they've been shown time and time again killing innocent men women a d literal children, just because they were "cockroaches" or "rats" or whatever (historically ironic) term they tell themselves to make it easier.
I don't know man, you don't talk to conservatives much, they seem to lump everyone in Palestine into one group.
I have face to face conversations with these people regularly, the "eat, sleep, and breathe Fox News" kind of people.
I'm sorry for you my friend
Do tell... who are the "terrosists" and who are the "human shields" in the top picture, apologist?
Malcom X... he's the one who said Neo-Nazis are actually Jews and went around talking about how his movement was being sabotaged by a Jewish conspiracy, right?
Edit: oh yeah, and whose meetings were attended by George Lincoln Rockwell and members of the American Nazi Party . Or is that a different Malcolm X your altright dogwhistle trash meme seems to be quoting?
It's almost as if people should read up on the people they quote to understand the underlying purpose of the quotes they are quoting before quoting them.
This quote is from his interview with Alex Haley before his assassination and the writing of his autobiography. Note, this was after his trip to Mecca and his conversion to Sunni Islam, where he renounced antisemitism and declared that we are “all God’s children.” He had left the Nation of Islam before this, where they met with the Nazis because they had common goals. He later admonished this meeting with Rockwell. The previous commenter doesn’t think you have the ability to think for yourself. You do.
I recommend everyone read the Autobiography of Malcolm X. He was a complex individual, as we all are. He made mistakes and became a better person despite them. He wasn’t perfect. None of us are. But his contribution to race advancement during the Civil Rights Movement was not insignificant.
Wow, this is the first time I've heard people shit talking Malcolm X. Would you consider yourself a white moderate? Just trying to understand where you're coming from
Is the quote untrue? Are Palestinians not oppressed?
I think the problem people have with the quote is that it ignores that religion is the main oppressor. Without the Islamists and the right wing Jews, Palistinians would have a chance at freedom.
Which religion advocates for murdering your neighbor? Religion is a tool used to oppress. The oppressors are people acting in their own self interests, contradicting their professed religions. Ilan Pappe disagrees about this conflicts religious origins.
that religion is the main oppressor.
Oh look... the edgelord atheist who is still sore because his parents forced him to go to Sunday School has decided to show up.
Noone is hating the Palestinians though. Only Hamas (who definitely at least don't care about the Palestinians)
Untrue. Lots of videos of zionists saying to kill Palestinian children. One said because they’ll grow up to be future terrorists.
So, they’re not oppressed? Maybe a definitive statement might help.
Riiiight... Palestinians (somehow) forced the genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist state of Israel to perpetrate genocide on Palestinians.
What else do you have, apologist? Auschwitz was just a holiday resort with really bad press, maybe?
X stands for Xinjiang where there is nothing but oppression for years and years now.. remember Xinjiang..
Wait was the song referring to Malcolm X?
Need to know more Malcolm X
If you like that, you're going to love his adage about foxes and wolves...
I recommend The Autobiography of Malcom X by Alex Haley. I read it in my 20’s and it changed how I look at the world.
Would be less confusing if not everyone was claiming to be oppressed. One of raddle's site rules is "no oppression" and I still have no fucking clue what that means.