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[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn't the perfect name but it's more memorable than kbin.

[–] garrettw87@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE

That's what I needed to hear today. genius

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speaking about names. What the hell is a "magazine"?? It's like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.

[–] SpacemanSpiff@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.

[–] my_hat_stinks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Community is descriptive though, they're literally communities centered around some topic. Magazine only works in a much more abstract sense.

[–] SpacemanSpiff@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.

[–] beirdobaggins@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I literally chose Lemmy instead of kbin because kbin sounds like a KDE app.

[–] sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] SpacemanSpiff@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has as much if not more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.

Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there are many more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world tests PHP can very often be faster then any less-than-mature-Rust codebase.

[–] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I was curious about Kbin until I read this comment.

[–] jpwg@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Probably but anything > node.

[–] goforliftoff@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Started on lemmy. Haven’t gotten annoyed yet and can’t currently be bothered to try yet another new thing.

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[–] olsonexi@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was the first one I knew about and I haven't had a reason to switch over. I already knew about lemmy long before all of the reddit drama happened, so that was where I went a few days before the blackout. I had never even heard of kbin until after I'd already been on lemmy for a while. Also, rust > php, and calling communities "magazines" is weird.

[–] ArtieShaw@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'll agree that calling communities "magazines" is weird.

The word reminds me of outdated (and overpriced) print periodicals or ammo holders. They may as well call them 8-tracks or cassettes. Maybe the word will evolve. "Sub" took on it's own meaning after Reddit.

"Fetch" still isn't happening, so we'll see.

[–] r_ffer23@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I just heard about Lemmy first. Maybe later I'll try kbin too.

[–] pipipopo@lemmy.pipipopo.pl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a difference, we can talk to each other :F

[–] asimplefriedegg@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

I found a specific Lemmy instance that I wanted to join. For what I use it for the format suits me better but if not for this instance I probably would've been on kbin just cuz it seems easier to interact with mastodon through it

[–] Ghost@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there's more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.

[–] grus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin just sounds cooler, dude.
I mean, lemmy - that's just lame with extra steps. Eww. Yuck. Yucky. Not cool. Actual cringe, tbh. 🤢
Kbin. That's like cool-beans, dude. Actually rad. And based. 😎
Who doesn't want to be cool? I tell you, nerds, that's who. Do you want to be a nerd? Didn't think so.
Checkmate. Try proving me wrong (pro-tip: you can't)

[–] dceosilver@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy is one of the coolest musicians to ever live. There, I won the argument.

[–] root_beer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

iirc Lemmy is God, so yeah

[–] autumn@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think lemmy looks nicer visually. I'll probably give kbin a try at some point.

[–] shadowblade_chaos@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] root_beer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Same. I’ve noticed that federation isn’t always complete so you may as well be in both, at least for now

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I came to kbin first when reddit shut down the /r/kbinmigration sub. Streisand effect.

Later I learned it was an anti spam feature and not intentional, but the damage was done.

[–] s4if@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
  1. Rust > PHP
  2. At the moment, Lemmy is more stable & have workable Android Apps.
  3. People who can use software regardless of the creator's political belief/worldview tend to be more open-minded and rational than purist who choose software only built by those who has same worldview with them even when it was inferior or lacking many features than alternatives.
  4. People on Lemmy is diverse in their ideological/worldview, It makes conversation more interesting and less prone to be an echo chamber for one ideological believe.
[–] Shyder@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm in both, but I'm a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience. 99% of my Reddit's time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.

I wouldn't mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.

[–] rina@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Idk i just heard of lemmy first

[–] Vincent-Van-Vega@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I gotta say, Kbin has such a nicer UI. Lemmy has to step up a notch.

[–] Evono@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.

It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.

on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.

also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.

[–] Naminreb@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The syntax is slightly different in Kbin: @community

Also, you need to do it from the all magazines search bar.

That made it work.

[–] HowShouldIKnow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

People started talking about the reddit API change and named lemmy as an alternative. So that's the one I checked out. Didn't here of kbin til I was already here.

[–] Alexmitter@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I first was on Lemmy, now on kbin. Kbin is just a much more nicer experience. Also it's not developed by tankies who glorify f*cking Mao Zedong. Simple as that.

[–] freebrick@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] BackOnMyBS@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

There was an Out of the Loop post that discussed this: https://lemmy.world/post/310513

[–] minorsecond@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

The tankie thing keeps pushing me away from lemmy, but lemmy seems to be the only software getting clients at the moment. So I'm torn. I want an iOS client badly, but I don't want to support tankies.

I suppose I shouldn't sell out for a nice app though.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not like they get money from that, they do get money from donations, but I don‘t think just using an open source product is support.

I use like hundreds of open source things and idk the ideology of any of the devs and I don‘t care, they could turn out to be serial killers, I don‘t see my use of their product as an issue. Monetary support is the difference to me.

Maybe I got some messed up morals though, wouldn’t be the first time.

[–] HanDman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Social networks, even open source ones are only successful if lots of people use them. The more people who join and contribute to the community, the more other people will find things that interest them and then join. Any engagement with the network increases it’s reach and therefore influence. If that network is run by tankies I’d rather not add to its power.

[–] esty@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is not ran by tankies, even if it may be developed by one - if the lead devs go off the rails, someone can always fork it and continue development elsewhere; and if any instance goes off the rails it can be defederated (and this is already happening!)

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