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France passes law protecting cocks' right to crow in the countryside (www.euronews.com)

submitted 11 months ago by roastedDeflator@kbin.social to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

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The new ‘countryside sounds and smells law’ aims to give more protection to existing farms from newly arrived residents in the area.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Not trying to be weird or anything, but the smell of manure is one of the most important parts of the rural experience. But try explaining that to real estate parasites...

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There was a rural town where I grew up that had roots in ranching. Everyone had horse corrals. It got big enough to incorporate into a city and started to grow quickly, but the new incoming residents started complaining about the horse manure smell.

So the city council passed a law that says basically the manure was here before you were. Get over it.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

It's like those people moving into houses beside an airport or railway track and complaining about the noise.

They probably got a house for 10% cheaper than elsewhere, why did they think it was such a good deal?

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 11 months ago

That organic smell means my exit is coming up next and I'm almost home.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you know that Alfred Krupp, one of the guys responsible for the arms race that led to World War 1, absolutely loved the smell of horse manure? He loved it to a point where he built a house designed so he could always smell it. Wild stuff.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you design a house to smell like horse shit, aside from filling the walls with it?

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I vaguely remember something about him building a horse barn with a well furnished bedroom in what would normally be the hay loft, with a big hole in the floor for the smellz to waft through.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Manure! I HATE MANURE!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

There are farms that remind me that it is spring by the smell of pig manure being spread on them. That is the week when you drive with your windows rolled up and the vent set to recycle. lol

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I much prefer the manure smell to the smells of the city.

[–] homoludens@feddit.de 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's six o'clock, it's up with the cock! (NSFW obviously)

[–] Jonny@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

OMG!!! I have looked for that song for so long!! When I was a teen someone played that on a drama club bus and no one has ever believed me that the song exists!

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What was the alternative?

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Farms and other such places getting shut down by newly built housing developments.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Ahh the old Let me move to country side and get upset by local things so I change everything. Then later move again when it was just like where I started.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't worry, people do that in cities too. People move into "trendy" neighborhoods, ruin them by campaigning to change them, and then move to the next trendy place.

Self entitlement and stupidity have no bounds.

People should be forbidden from complaining about things that predated them moving into an area.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Go to any popular national park where they cram development right up to the entrance. "What a lovely place, let's build the fuck out of it."

[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Asking the important question

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is ludicrously incorrect. Everything is back to being green now, unless it was a desert zone to begin with.

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

Maui is going to die.

If you ended that reply by commenting on the central valley alone, you might have a valid point, but you imply all of Maui is brown and going to die. That is incorrect. I am also on this island and can see it myself.

edit: it also leaves out how most residents also wanted the cane burning and plowing to stop because it was a health problem, and how companies are slowly replanting that land with various crops that don’t cause the same type of issues, but are still in early stages.

It also implies that there’s only one place affected by the ashfall and dust by being downwind, which is incorrect when people in Kihei, Wailuku and Paia can be affected (as experienced personally by myself in all three places), which are all in entirely different directions. The wind doesn’t always blow one way here.

edit2: it’s also weird that this reply was to an article about roosters, but instead of commenting on that problem here, you went with something completely unrelated.

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

LOL, whatever dude, the loss of Lahaina should not be underrepresented, but it was not the only primary attraction. As someone who woke up with breathing issues from cane smoke while living in Kihei, Wailuku, and Paia, it was a problem for everyone within wind's distance. Anyone, including yourself, who says otherwise is just fucking ignorant. And any such law that we may need to have in place is totally irrelevant to the cane fields and all the reasons that whole operation was stopped. The only people legitimately sad about it were cane field workers, which lasted until they got different jobs. While we live on the same rock, we clearly live in different realities.

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you can’t breathe here then you should move.

Not a problem now, because the burning has stopped, dumbass.

You talk about how something was the biggest local news item, yet apparently totally ignored the years of complaints from locals and long-term residents suffering from various forms of smoke-induced asthma, emphysema, etc... which is why it's ridiculous that people here are still giving older folks wearing masks a hard time, because many of them were wearing masks during burning seasons to help with the effects before the pandemic even happened.

Now we have even more dust and fires since there’s no irrigation system to control it.

LOL, no, that's not true either. The main places we had uncontrolled fires didn't have irrigation to begin with, with exception of the one downhill from Pukalani headed towards Maui Meadows (edit: actually, no, the area approaching Maui Meadows never had irrigation either), but please, do point out where the irrigation systems were in Kula, Olinda, and over on the west side so I can go see where that used to be. All the other fires we've had recently are the pedestrian variety probably caused by cigarettes being thrown out like usual, and they were all quickly brought under control. I get the alerts for emergencies and all clears just like everyone else here.

This nonsense may go over with people who don't live here, but I do live here.

And don’t put “maui” in your screen name or emails; that’s carpetbagger shit right there.

No, you can get over it. If it's a problem for you, that's just too bad.

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Wrong again, not sure what part of “Paia” and “Wailuku” you don’t understand, but neither of those places has had new housing projects.

Also not sure what part of “locals” you don’t understand, but not many of them are in new housing projects either.

I lived for several years at the end of West Vineyard St in Wailuku, overlooking Happy Valley, in the opposite direction from Kihei, and we got smoked out by cane burning on a regular basis. That’s not even remotely a new housing project area.

edit: seriously tho, are you actually trying to blame smoke complaints on vog? That’s the dumbest thing you’ve said yet. It’s a completely different problem with milder effects. People think they’re having allergies and going for the antihistamines, they aren’t waking up with their eyes and lungs burning.

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Dude who says all of Maui is brown, going to die, and has no primary attractions left says someone else is being melodramatic. LOL

And clearly you don’t know as much about the winds as you claim. Feel free to go door to door over there and ask people about it.

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

Maui is going to die.

I already quoted you before but there it is again, in all its melodramatic wrongness.

edit: not to mention that part of the smoke pollution was them burning the existing pipe along with the cane, because it was basically impossible to harvest around it, and it wasn’t harvested until after it was burned.

And, again, the uncontrolled wildfires have been in places where there was no irrigation to begin with.

edit2: It’s still baffling that last part has to be explained for you. There have been no uncontrolled fires in any areas that previously had irrigation, because all the cane field road infrastructure is still there, so the fire dept can drive right to it. Meanwhile, the uncontrolled fires were uncontrolled because there were no easy access points, and there were no previous irrigation sources located there. It’s really weird, or just disingenuous, that you’re trying to conflate these two completely separate things.

[+] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t need to win anything with you. As long as other readers come along and understand that you’re full of shit regarding the overall state of Maui, or at the very least extremely confused about the facts here, that’s enough. You’re probably one of those who think the Olinda and Kula fires were started by a laser, and there’s absolutely no talking sense into those people.

edit: You’re the one who’s complaining about controlled vs uncontrolled fires related to irrigation or lack thereof. The only “uncontrolled” ones were in August, all the other previous ones since the cane has been gone were handled quickly, because again, easy access. So apparently your definition of uncontrolled is loose at best. You act like there were no random fires when the cane was still growing, which is absolutely false. Plenty of unscheduled burns by vandals in the fields, which weren’t easy for the fire dept to put out.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can we ban my neighbor yelling back at the roosters? Like, buddy, I'm sorry that Disney tricked you into thinking it's a sunrise thing. They do it all hours of the day and night as they please, and you yelling "SHUT THE FUCK UP IT'S NOT SUNRISE" isn't helping anything.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dont know why but some dude yelling at roosters like that is fucking hilarious. Especially since roosters DGAF.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

They most certainly do not.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The title without additional context sounds like an old man yelling in the country side that people call a cock

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The eternal issue, people see these rural areas and go "Oh how quaint! Lets live here!". Then they proceed to destroy the very things that attracted them. "Oh, these farms are smelly, and these animals are noisy. Can't have that." Lets move to the woods and cut all the trees down, then move to the desert and suck all the water up to force the landscape to look like a golf course.

I remember a comedian said "Real estate developments are named after the thing they destroyed when they built it, like "Beaver Creek" or "Oak Woods".

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I remember when the rich people moved up from NY and NJ to Maine to live in all those quaint seaports then they complained about the smell from the docks and such because of the people who dared to work as lobstermen and fishermen instead of lawyers. Maine finally got sick of it and passed laws protecting the working seaports.

Then the rich folks bought the pretty islands off of the coast and complained about the foghorns that are part of the protection system for boats. So now they don't sound unless you have a device that triggers them. Part of the beauty of the seacoast, hearing the foghorns, is now gone because some millionaire needs to be coddled.