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what's currently the best solution for a windows install (lemmy.ml)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml to c/piracy@lemmy.ml

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I haven't had anything to do with windows in like 5+ years. I need to set up a laptop with it for someone tomorrow, I'm guessing W11 is nowadays recommended? what's currently the best option for a hassle free experience (no ads, no random game installs, no migrations to onedrive, etc)?

last time I did it, I used the W10 ISO from Microsoft, applied the hwidsomething and ran some debloater from github. back then there were some ~~ESR~~ LTSC ISOs available on torrent sites, is that still a thing?

the install is going to use firefox, chrome, skype, libreoffice, etc., they all autoupdate themselves, so it's going to be reasonably secure. what's my best bet for a set & forget situation? thanks.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Download windows here

Then run this tool and check off anything you want, like disabling onedrive, cortana, web results in search, etc..

You can use this tool to easily bulk remove any pre-installed apps that you don't want.

I don't recommend running big debloater scripts, they often remove useful things and can break things.

For installing software you can use winget which is built into windows. For example:

winget install TheDocumentFoundation.LibreOffice

and

winget update --all

[–] Quack@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

I recommend Rufus for a hassle-free W11 install. Download the official iso from the Microsoft website and use Rufus to put it on a USB. Rufus has options to bypass the W11 hardware requirements and to bypass the need for Internet while installing W11. This will also disable the need to login to a Microsoft account.

There's workarounds by going into CMD during the Windows install but Rufus makes it a lot easier.

[–] jdrch@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

what's my best bet for a set & forget situation?

Deploy WingetUI and set it to automatically update everything as administrator. The nice thing about this solution is it scales to whatever 3rd party apps the user installs in the future.

It's about as close as you'll get to Debian's venerable automatic-upgrades on Windows.

[–] vardogor@mander.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

for work, I use 11 pro education activated with KMS. removes some of the advertising and telemetry. i don't recommend using a debloated script for set and forget, just go through every privacy setting

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago

Why not Linux? They can surf and do most everything they want. Plus when they have a question, you'll be in a position to support it.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Windows 11 download, EU version is not there yet but maybe try to use a VPN from your router or so to get an EU version saved somewhere in the OS so that you benefit from the laws in the future.

But that is optional.

If you are on Linux use balena etcher for flashing. Better is to use Rufus on an existing Windows, as it can remove some nasty things directly like online account and even hardware requirements.

Remove all other drives if there are any, Windows destroys everything (rule of thumb)

Plug the stick in, begin installation.

When "sign in with MS account" shows up and there is no "I have no internet" option, use Bypass 1 from this website or try the others.

Choose Windows 11 pro or even enterprise if possible as these have less bloat. If you are feeling adventurous, unlock any Windows version and Office with this tool

After install, get BCUninstaller and WinUtil from Chris titus (run the command in the administrator powershell window).

Remove as much bloat as possible, winutil allows you to remove edge. Install vlc, firefox/brave, 7zip and maybe more through winutil.

Winutil also allows debloating and removing telemitry (but it uses the shitty ShutUpWin10 which is stolen from DoNotSpy10 so maybe use that too). Performance mode and disabling "feature updates" might also be wanted.

The DNS settings are a bit broken, so better change the DNS settings manually to some of these servers

Use SimpleWall to block tracking connections. Portmaster broke connectivity check or something for me on Win11.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

And well, dont get Windows from Torrent sites that is very likely malware.

Win11 has no LTSC I think

[–] magicalzfmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago

Try atlas os dor windows 11 but I would recommend windows 10 ltsc Iot edition. Unlock it using MAS AIO. And you are good to go. Minimal installation without needless simplification of windows 11. It also will obtain windows 10 support longer(research that).

[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

thanks everyone for the input.

ran it off my ventoy stick that also has all my linux ISOs, really didn't feel like creating an USB installer. install went OK, managed to get the local user going, no extraneous apps installed and killed off what I perceived to be unneeded junk. got the 3rd party apps sorted, everything looks fine.

on a side note - holy cow what a bloated and inefficient mess this is. and with the fucking updates, a neverending torrent of updates and drivers for this and that, it took like 4 hours from start to finish with like a million restarts inbetween... I can't imagine having to use this thing daily.

the new owner is in my thoughts and prayers, hopefully it's another five years before I have to regedit this and that. thanks everyone all around!