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Vaccines can be delivered through the skin using ultrasound. This method doesn’t damage the skin and eliminates the need for painful needles. To create a needle-free vaccine, Darcy Dunn-Lawless at the University of Oxford and his colleagues mixed vaccine molecules with tiny, cup-shaped proteins. They then applied liquid mixture to the skin of mice and exposed it to ultrasound – like that used for sonograms – for about a minute and a half.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 181 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Antivaxxers now pro-abortion to avoid forced ultrasound vaccinations.

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 74 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As interesting as that would be to happen, in reality, there's just going to be a bunch more people going without pre natal care.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Which is going to be most red states in the next decade. Great time to be in the little coffin business though.

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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 166 points 11 months ago (27 children)

While this is awesome, I can already imagine anti-vaxxers are now deathly afraid of ultrasounds lol

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Brace yourselves! Vaccination with sound conspiracies coming in!

“The IRS called, they vaccinated me trough my phone in my ear!!?”

“Mass vaccinations trough radio!!?”

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As much as I hate fucking mobile alerts, they already thought the last test was some magical bullshit.

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ultrasound vaccines and 5G!

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[–] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 115 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think that's the basic premise of the Star Trek hypospray. Pressure pushing in medicine rather than a needle.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 81 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Actual hyposprays have been around since the 60's. They are, by all account, quite painful and ironically not very hygienic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_injector

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago

My favorite anecdote, though not necessarily mine, about jet inoculation comes from the army. They had long lines of men to immunize and little time to do it. Walk up, hold still, hear the click, feel the water pierce you, walk away sore. However, if anyone moved even slightly during the process, the needle of water becomes a knife, slicing their shoulder open. It was not a well thought out mechanism.

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[–] Davel23@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago

That's more like a jet injector, which we've already had for a while.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A lot slower, though. Article says it takes a minute and a half.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It takes my kid half an hour of screaming and throwing a public fit just to get within two miles of a needle, so I'll take it.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 101 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In other news, conservatives have introduced a bill to outlaw ultrasound machines.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Since vaginal ultrasound is how they detect a "fetal heartbeat" at 6 weeks (the heart isn't yet formed or pushing any blood, but there's an electronic pulse) at which point abortion is illegal in many states, that might be a good thing.

Although, as ultrasound is also how my overdue fetus was diagnosed with the umbilical cord wrapped 3x around the neck, leading to a quick C-section and healthy baby, I would rather keep the ultrasound machines and lose the lunatics.

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[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago

The ultrasound waves are how they activate the 5g tracking chips, it's all in their plan I got from this website I found on page 68 of Google.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Great, a new thing for the lunatics to rant about.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I was gonna say oh now they are gonna say that's what the 5g towers are REALLY for 🙄🙄🙄

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

At this point if it was possible to orchestrate some massive conspiracy to vaccinate people en masse, we should just do that. They'll shout about it either way, but this way they'll at least be vaccinated

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[–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And here come the conspiracy theories...

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

No joke. The first thing that popped into my mind when reading the title was: "great, now my father will be afraid to do an ultrasound test"

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[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 42 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I should patent a long range dart gun for vaccinating morons.

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[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hyposprays are finally here!!!!!

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[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

History proves we do the cheapest, easiest, and fastest. So allow me to shit all over this idea...

  • This is slow at 1.5 mins vs a needle takes about 5 secs.
  • Takes skill to operate an ultrasound machine and probably training to get a consistent dose vs pull needle to this line and jab in arm to know you got it all in there.
  • Every Rite Aid and CVS would need an ultrasound machine vs here are these cheap disposable needles that require no power or maintenance.

Sure they might develop it faster or make a new more portable thing. But that's going to take a long long time when no one gives a shit to invest money in a new thing when needles work.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As with all new inventions/procedures, this is just the first step. The process will become faster and more efficient in the future.

In my opinion, this is a great first step towards a Star Trek-like hypospray.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago

No one is suggesting this be put in practice in its current form, that would be insane. That said, this is a good first step for alternative forms of vaccination. “First step” being the important part.

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[–] JMHershey125@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We are one step closer to hypo sprays from Star Trek. I don't like needles so this will be really neat to see in mass adoption.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Hyposprays already were invented, mass produced, used as standard in the military for several years, and abandoned because they weren't as hygienic as needles.

Anything that pushes through the skin into the blood pushes pathogens in too. Statistically, needles were safer so hyposprays were abandoned.

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[–] pauljacobson@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (21 children)

I'm diabetic. This would be awesome!!

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (14 children)

Sitting for a minute and a half, not including prep and cleanup, or just getting stabbed a little. shrug

Edit: To save the next half dozen people exclaiming "needles!" the trouble. I would refine my point to, "great to have the option but I imagine it as being more of a fallback than the beginning of a new era".

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Also stops a lot of medical waste

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[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago (13 children)

For people like me who go down for a half hour and feel like a train wreck for 8 hours when they get stabbed a little, I'll take a 1.5min one.

If you told me I needed to run on a treadmill for an hour while the ultrasound worked, I'd STILL take it over getting stabbed a little.

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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Needle phobias are extremely common, and the thing about phobias is that you're fully aware that the fear isn't coming from a rational place, which is part of what makes them so frustrating to deal with.

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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

few inches closer to Star Trek

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I knew it, the govment are poisoning us with their 5G waves!

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So, now antivax mothers can't get ultrasound anymore while they're pregnant?

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[–] pedestrian@links.hackliberty.org 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Sweet, now they can charge me $1k for a shot and not use a needle.

Last time I got an ultrasound the hospital charged me $2k. Wanted to confirm nothing was wrong with my kidneys. Turns out I was all good, but now I have an expensive bill to deal with...

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago

If they can do this for insulin which sounds like it's the same this is a game changer

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I guess it's interesting but this seems to have minimal use case. For those with reactions to injections and such it's useful, but it seems much easier to use a needle in most cases. Also that article claims that it "doesn't damage the skin", but I don't see why a vaccine would cause any meaningful damage to the skin in the first place.

Edit: Okay I'm seeing now how this would be useful for more frequent injections like insulin and such if it can be used like that.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It literally tears a hole in the flesh with a puncture wound. It's the definition of damaging.

Minor damage, but damage none the less.

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vaccines just vibing their way into your body

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[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago (5 children)

what will the anti-vax say

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Nothing of importance as usual

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[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's how the five gee gets ya!

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[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ultrasound AKA 5G mind waves.

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