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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 137 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Behold Fox News trying to win back some of their moderate viewers and cover their assess, so they don't get hit with another billion dollar lawsuit.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 104 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If anyone is undecided on Trump at this point, they're not moderates.

[–] Alivrah@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Just because the dude wants to rule as God on earth doesn't mean you can't have a nuanced, neutral view on him! /s

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah I mean I’m fine with trump locking up his political opponents for no reason, I just don’t want to hear him talk about it on tv. I also really don’t understand democratic voters that care more about democracy than gas prices or inflation. Were you people not paying attention when he cut our nursing home population in half?

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think /u/Telorand was suggesting that. Rather I think they're saying that Fox news is trying to appeal to both trump supporters and non-trump supporters within their base, whatever their base counts as these days.

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

My pops is super conservative and he finally came around to thinking trump is a grifter and criminal. Fox went a long way (or all the way and then some) towards discrediting themselves within the journalism community, but they still have a lot of boomers that are addicted to the outrage they spew.

I don’t think they are trying to appeal to their audience that is closer to center. I think they realize they can’t support open fascism and come out the other side if it fails.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They still have another ongoing billion dollar lawsuit from smartmatic, the other voting machine company they slandered.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, isn't it great? Their comeuppance is long overdue.

[–] Thirdborne@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't kid yourself. Smartmatic is in it for a payday. They're not interested in justice or even revenge. Might make Fox temporarily uncomfortable, but there won't be any pressure for journalistic reform and if they have to stop short of bankrupting them to ensure maximum payout, that's what they'll do.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago

Smartmatic is in it for a payday. They're not interested in justice or even revenge.

Sure. But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy it vicariously. I'm not expecting Fox to get bankrupted. But they rolled the dice on some real whoppers, and since money is their lifeblood, I'm happy to see them really bleed for it for once.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network 7 points 11 months ago

it is because less people are watching.

a, news is different most don't watch cable

b, pearl clutching becomes tiresome

[–] RonnieB@lemmy.world 126 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Having a POC say the truth so the racist base they fostered will dismiss it

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

ding ding ding

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I always wonder what they're thinking. Does it feel like you're surrounded by snarlinf predators? Because real human communities aren't supposed to be like that. Do they think their deeds will spare them when it comes time to enact the white supremacy? History shows it never does.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I always wonder what they’re thinking.

"Better to be the right hand of the devil, than in his path."

If we're to assume rational behavior, this is about resignation and making the most about (what is believed to be) an impossible situation. So, cynicism and pessimism. But yeah, simple greed and sheer stupidity could also be the case.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Opportunity to be token black R that's paraded around. R has been full to the brim of opportunists trying to take their slice of the pie since Joe The Plumber marked the beginning of an era of narrative over all else.

Before the wall of "same as it ever was" replies - no. The mainstream conservative propaganda machine flew off the rails starting around that time. Yes, there was build up. But that's when the needle spiked into the red.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

They’d dismiss it no matter the person’s race.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 105 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Untruths, or lies as they are called.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Alternarive facts, as the crypt keeper use to say.

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 104 points 11 months ago (3 children)

We are already at the 1984 double speak level "untruth" fuck outta here with that.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And I thought "alternative facts" was cringe.

[–] luminaree@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

And that was only the beginning.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There is a semantic difference between “untruth” (or “falsity”), and “lie”. Lies are intentional, so untruths are the bigger category. Obviously, in the case of Trump, most of the untrue things he says are intentional, but I’m sure a lot are also just garden variety ignorance.

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but we already have "falsehoods" for that, why make up a word? Because untruths is more of a soft pedal.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That sounds plausible. “Untruth” sounds gentler.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now only 50% less truthy.

9 out of 10 polygraphs recommend.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'll have one untruthened politician please. No lemon.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how much he just says things, and if they happen to be true, wonderful.

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

yeah totally. I'd even go so far as to say that a lot of the things he says are intentionally ambiguous, so that he can't be pinned down on the truth of any claim and his supporters can do mental gymnastics when he's wrong.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Yeah, this is seriously double-plus ungood.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Man, those lawsuits must have really traumatized them for them to have changed their behavior this much. Love to see it though maybe Faux will be slightly less trash now.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Until he secures the GOP nomination. Then it'll go right back to All Trump, all the time.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did it ever stop being that?

The difference will be that they'll put more effort into this. More "Wow. There is a lot to unpack there. Here is what The President is teaching us when he says this". Spin it as 4D chess where lowly peasants can't truly understand the wisdom.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Losing money is worse than losing a child to the ultra wealthy.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

They don’t care about losing a child, they’re not worth any capital yet.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

never gonna happen as long as the devil's spawn is running the show.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you could just refuse to televise the useless piece of shit

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago
[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seems like them pointing out the election was not rigged is too little, too late at this point

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

At this point they’re just covering their ass from more lawsuits, and the one from Smartmatic is still on the way.