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I'm thinking about immigrating away from the United States. How do I and where should I immigrate to? (lemmy.ml)
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I want to immigrate away from the United States, but I don't know where to immigrate to.

  • The U.S is an awful place for workers, specifically neurodiverse workers; I am diagnosed with Autism and ADHD, and have dark-skin. :(
  • I also think it will turn fascist in some years which, based on history, does not give a good life experience for the disabled or neurodivergent.
  • I have not been employed anywhere; but I have read online about the dozens of awful worker stories, which (probably for my benefit) dissuaded me from getting a job as a teenager; and I don't feel motivated to get one because of my ADHD.
  • U.S Self-defense laws seem draconian; even if I just rely on basic self-defense, exercise, and Krav Maga; I still fear that my potential self-defense plea will get thrown out.

(I think I want to dodge the NATO countries.) I think I would like to and try to immigrate to a socialist country; but I haven't fully layed out my reasons for that yet.

If I think of anything else to add; I'll edit the post to add it here.

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[–] panic@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've had family members who tried migrating (from a 3rd world country to a 1st world one). They are amazing workers with years of experience but they have no post-secondary education and some didn't finish high school. They didn't speak the language.

It was a terrifying experience to see from the outside. I can't imagine it first hand. Physical laborers are so exploited my family had to come back. Housing problems, they weren't getting payed properly, overworked... all this when they at least had the safety of a contract and visa. I was worried they were suicidal.

Unless you get extremely lucky, try working towards some type of certification and work experience and learning the language. If anything, at least focus on becoming mentally stronger so you can endure that type of hardship.

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oof for your family members. What country did your family members migrate to?

I have some self-taught programming skills; but I haven't gotten very far with my projects (IMO).

If anything, at least focus on becoming mentally stronger so you can endure that type of hardship.

This is good advice; but how do I become mentally stronger?

[–] panic@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not comfortable sharing the country but it wasn't in North America or Europe.

I have some self-taught programming skills; but I haven’t gotten very far with my projects (IMO).

That's a good place to start. I have heard some successful stories about programmers. The problem is that those people had work experience and higher education (I think it was with the US equivalent of an associate's degree and/or certifications).

How do you make yourself mentally stronger?

Well, usually trying out incrementally harder things while you live in a place you know. Going to school, finding coping strategies with therapy or a support group, a job, etc. But I don't know what options you have available or how much support you need so I can't give you a specific plan.

First you need to find out if immigration is what you want in life and where you want to go. After that you can decide how you're gonna tackle that journey.

Unless you get extremely lucky all of this takes years to achieve. But it's a good motivator.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What languages do you speak?

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

English. I sporadically learn Japanese.

[–] lssssj@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Keep there until you get knowledge and abilities. Looking by your experience, or lack of it, looks like you will not get a good job in another country. Migration requires a lot of work and you have great chances of suffering from lack of money, inhumane living and working conditions, etc.

[–] chad1234@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It costs a huge amount of money to renounce US citizenship

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait really?

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They also charge you taxes even if you work in another country, and if you ever return, you owe them.

[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

ugh. If I immigrate, I hope I never visit the U.S again.

[–] CaptCalhoun@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Amicchan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It's a walled garden then! ugh.