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Like many of you, I was looking for Reddit alternative and have settled here and on Squabbles.io. Still not 100% on how the Fediverse and Kbin work, but I'm learning.

Beehaw is tapping into that text side of social media. Something I haven't seen much talked about is sometimes I don't want to see only pictures or video like Instagram and tiktok. Reddit facilitated conversation primarily through the comments and that's something I see replicated here and that's a great thing, think it will give it long term legs!

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[–] polaroid@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Hey, testing, can anyone from Beehaw see this? I'm from kbin. I like Beehaw's categories so far but I wanted a federated instance to see how it feels as I adjust to the fediverse. Kbin is not defederated from beehaw, right?

Despite some of the... angry comments I think beehaw made the right decision for now. Moderation tools are important, particularly in places like this.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You should be aware that Beehaw has just defederated from some of the bigger Lemmy servers. You’ll be missing out on a lot of content if your account is based there. I’ll see if I can find a post about the details for you.

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Temporarily, until the Rexxit flood eases off and better moderation tools are developed.

No worries. Don’t pay too much attention to the apoplectic posts from people who’ve been in the Fediverse for a couple days and don’t understand how it works yet. Federating and defederating while wrinkles are worked out is just part of the whole shebang, and has been going on for years here.

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rexxit

Are you trying to avoid some kind of account-flagging or something?

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

No. It’s a pun on “Brexit” that is getting used a lot.

“Brexit” was a silly term being used when the UK was debating leaving the EU. Britain + Exit = Brexit

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Ahh ok. None of them defederated from Lemmy.ca so I’m cool.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Actually just one bigger and one medium size if your talking recent actions. Not a huge deal at least for me. It actually would be interesting to know the full list.

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Wow! That is great. Thanks.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Ah ok. Apparently it’s also only a temporary thing. I’m still learning how all this works; I’m not a good primary source

[–] Bluebird@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Which servers did we defederate from?

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Beehaw.org/instances gives you the full list. Bear in mind Beehaw is a couple years old. Experience builds up.

The current defed of Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works is temporary, due to mod tools being inadequate to handle the Reddit overload. The admins of the three instances are on good terms, no-one is pissed at anyone else, they are all struggling to bring everything up to speed.

Newbies are freaking out, and posting wild tales of apocalyptic woe…

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Ohhhh jees I said I’d come back with a link with more info, but then got stoned and played video games instead. I can’t find one now. Shit just works and Lemmy world I think?

[–] nii236@lemmy.jtmn.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean “text based social media” is basically forums right?

[–] HelixTitan@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, but forums tend to be very niche. A single community on here could be an entire forum somewhere. I like it all in one place which is what transcends it to modern social media. Forums are social media version 0.5.

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am struggling to discover and pull kbin instances into my lemmy instance. Search doesn’t seem to make the connection to kbin.social or fedia.io magazines/communities.

[–] halfflat@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha, I just had this problem, and weirdly the solution was to search for the owner of the kbin magazine, navigate to their post history and find the magazine/community that way. A bit clunky 😅.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So kbin federation is working? I have seen some things said that kbin has or did have some federation issues that kbin is working on. Any idea where things stand with this? Old or wrong or still a thing?

[–] halfflat@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin.social is (at least since I last checked like 30 minutes ago) federating, they removed the cloudflare ddos protection that was making federation impossible a few days ago. If you take a look at the kbin’s all page you’ll see plenty of material federating from lemmy.world and us over here on beehaw. You should be able to just search for kbin magazines with the regular Lemmy search, but I’ve found that to be inconsistent.

[–] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By the way, thanks so much. I have been wondering a little about this. I have been avoiding both lemmy.ml (since they do not seem to be accepting subscriptions) and kbin which kind of cuts down on some of the obvious choices especially with lemmy.world out for now. Still not too bad. The Fediverse is a big place. Not sure people fully grasp the options even without a few of the big instances.

[–] halfflat@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

No prob! I'd actually recommend making an account on one of the kbin instances if you're curious at all about it. It works a little differently and has some unique design goals which gives you a bit of a preview of how the fediverse might move forward into the future and beyond the web 2.0 that we all know. Interesting things are ahead, it seems :).

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