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First RCS now this, today has been wild

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[–] donuts@kbin.social 538 points 10 months ago (13 children)

I'm a Linux guy and I don't really care about Windows, but I'm glad to see this happening and every day I thank Europe for being the main entity fighting for regulation of big tech monopolies, because America is really failing.

[–] howler@lemmy.world 162 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its nuts that during the Obama admin, all anyone cared about was the threat of zero privacy. Now everyone in the US has surrendered to it, because our politicians have sold our digital privacy rights to the tech companies.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 113 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

If we had actual IT giants in Europe, this would look very different.

I've seen how the car industry in Germany only got a slap on the wrist because of Dieselgate and even got the chance to send out advertisement payed by the government.

I feel like the only reason stuff like this gets pushed so hard is because we try to slow down the current IT giants until we get our shit together.

I'm glad that we do it, but i wouldn't say we are better than anyone else.

[–] isles@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the honest take, a lot of people get caught up in the idea that if an organization does something that aligns with them, they are good or doing it for the same reasons.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

There is a lot of protectionism at the heart of the EU. They are quite happy to heavily regulate Big Tech when it’s not based in their own market. Unfortunately they don’t have quite the same passion for nurturing the European tech industry as much as stifling the foreign ones.

They are it purely fighting these fights for the greater good, or they wouldn’t also be pushing things like the recent browser certificate debacle.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

EU is very much a mixed bag. On the one hand, they do this, on the other hand, they tried to ban P2P encryption and microtargetted religious and elderly in resisting countries, feeding them the classic "it's for the children's safety" lies.

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 249 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (31 children)

ABOUT FUCKING TIME. Take edge and shove it so far up your data tracking sphincter of a face hole.

Can we please get these laws on a global level.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 67 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Well they'll probably reinstall it with every update anyway.

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[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 166 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why yes Microsoft, I am totally a European in Europe right now...

[–] radix@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

VPN to Sweden, update Windows to the EEA version, profit?

I'm not holding my breath, but we can hope.

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 104 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It 's wild to think that some people might VPN to the EU for basic rights.

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 144 points 10 months ago (59 children)

Hey, 'Muricans, how come we need to pressure every company into compliance for you?

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 72 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Do you really think any average citizen has any say in this whatsoever?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yes. You're a democracy, right? Right?

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 50 points 10 months ago (3 children)

On paper yes. In reality...

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 127 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Thank you Europe. Once again you prove yourself to be what we all aspire to be.

[–] vsh@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago

Europe is carrying us fr

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[–] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 115 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As an American, all I can say is thank you Europe for continuing to have sensible legislation that forces these companies to have decent policies worldwide if only to comply with EU laws. I only use Windows on my company provided laptop but just because I don't need to worry about it personally doesn't mean that I shouldn't care about how it affects others.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 73 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We're basically dependent on the EU and California to have any rights as consumers at all.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 103 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So apparently having consumer-friendly laws does in fact lead to better products. Cool.

Perhaps the USA and other countries should follow the EU's good example on this.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 89 points 10 months ago (6 children)
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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 81 points 10 months ago

Yeah turns out businesses behave when you legislate their misdeeds instead of just calling them job creators

[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Now there will be two versions of Windows. One that adheres to EU regulation, and another that's filled with ads for everyone else.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Windows 12 Euro Trash Edition and Windows 12 Red Blooded God Anointed American Edition. If either crosses the EU boarder the computer will explode killing everyone in a 10 meter radius.

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[–] query@lemm.ee 73 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They say if you don't pay, you're the product, but that's obviously bullshit, paying solves nothing. The saying should be never trust corporations.

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I just switched to Linux. Get fucked!

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (5 children)

and that's the only long-term winning move, because MS shenanigans will never end

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 10 months ago

Regulation works.

[–] Djtecha@lemm.ee 49 points 10 months ago (19 children)

Once steam covers 90% of games windows becomes irrelevant.

[–] atthecoast@feddit.nl 43 points 10 months ago (13 children)

So what you’re saying is, 2024 will be the year of Linux on the desktop?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Does Linux let you disable its system-embedded advertisements? Didn't think so!

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[–] mathterdark@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Only in EU/EEA countries. So us here in ~~Gilead~~ America are SOL at the moment

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At last. This is actually good news for Windows itself because people will be more inclined to use it again if they don't see ads, aren't tracked, can set any default browser etc.

So it's good for both users and Microsoft.

Sometimes these corporations just can't help themselves by adding trash and they need a mommy figure to force them to stop doing that which ultimately benefits themselves.

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[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 10 months ago

FUCK YEAH! EAT SHIT MICROSOFT!

I mean...I still would've blocked the ads no matter what. I paid for my computer it's mine and I should be allowed to control it.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago
[–] Resol@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (8 children)
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[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hell has truly frozen over. I guarantee that uninstalling edge will break something else in Windows

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

EU to the rescue once again.

[–] vbb@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (12 children)

As a Linux user, this is freaking funny.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

Does this also mean Google will let me uninstall Chrome from my Android device? Or is this only about PC's?

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[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

How do they verify that I'm in the EEA? Do I need to sign up through a VPN when I register Windows or do I just specify an EEA country during the install?

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago

You should still switch to Linux.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 months ago

It seems in some cases when it comes to protecting you from industry practices can only be handled by government agencies.

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