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Serious question, as Iβ€˜ve barely seen any mention of Lemmy on Reddit. None of the Mod posts regarding the Blackout mentioned Lemmy as far as Iβ€˜m aware. Would it be against the TOS to start a coordinated promotion?

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[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I found Lemmy through Reddit because of the protest. If anything, it works.

[–] yaphy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Same thing for me. But I mostly lurk on reddit. I'd like to make an effort to post here though!

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[–] dystop@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

er, nothing? I found out about lemmy from reddit

[–] Glunkbor@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can promote it all you want on reddit, just always be polite and not obnoxious in any way or form. Not saying that you personally would be, but speaking in general terms too much energy into convincing people to come here might have a negative effect on other people's motivation.

[–] ShinNoodleBlackCup@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This! if I see people ask for alternatives I will recommend them, but I'm currently not going out of my way to force it down anyone's throat.

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[–] Aninjanameddaryll@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Nothing so far.

The automod post I have set up at r/edc links to the sopuli.xyz/c/edc version.

At r/knives, we have both the lemmy and squabbles versions linked.

Neither myself, or the mods I comoderate with at the knives sub have faced any issues. This could change, but as long as you aren't spamming the hell out of it, they aren't coming after mods, or users doing it here and there.

There was the new sub, r/lemmymigration, that got pulled down then reinstated after backlash though, and the person running that got banned for a bit. There's also been reports of anti-protest mods requesting, and getting, senior mods removed in their favor. All of which is bullshit that merits huffman getting kicked in the nads, but it was expected.

[–] kyrbi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I dont think it's againts rules, I found Lemmy because of Reddit.

[–] GiantBasil@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In my experience lemmy was the most suggested alternative on reddit and then tildes, the only time i ever heard abou kbin was the day before the blackout with the subreddit ban and then during it.

[–] zero_iq@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd never heard of kbin at all until I actually signed up to a Lemmy instance.

I'd heard Lemmy mentioned somewhere before (I've searched for reddit alternatives a few times in the past as I got increasingly annoyed by their pushiness towards the app), but only really took notice of it a few days before the blackout when I saw it mentioned many times on reddit.

[–] fluffery@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin I think is really new, I've only heard it mentioned fairly recently, and I been exclusively using the fediverse for about a year now

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I like the kbin UI and ergonomics a little more than Lemmy.world, but the underpinning tech isn't going to scale efficiently, being based on PHP. I have a sign on over there too. It's comfy, but intermittently unusable or unresponsive. So there are some teething pains here, but Kbin is also part of the fediverse, and will hopefully start opening up more federations soon. That should hopefully reduce some load and more users.

The more the Fediverse at large is able to draw off the Rexxitβ„’, the more we all win.

[–] GiantBasil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I only got an actual link to kbin during the blackout here on lemmy, it was surprising to hear they got so many people so fast. It's nice they did, i just don't remember seeing anything about them on the alternatives subreddit or anywhere else.

[–] thegiddystitcher@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kbin seemed to be pushed more on Mastodon than Lemmy was, during and in the run up to the blackout. Lots of people giving new things a go this week, even from places other than Reddit!

[–] GiantBasil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that makes sense then! mastodon, much like twitter is still a big mystery to me.

[–] thegiddystitcher@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's a whole new frontier! :D

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[–] panopticchaos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That makes sense, from what I’ve seen kbin integrates with mastodon as well (I think you can even set it up so some mastodon hashtags get included in their versions of communities)

Yeah I think you're right. And they'll hopefully fix their tech issues soon so we can all be one big happy family again haha

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Funny, I mentioned joining Lemmy on reddit and had someone go "join tildes, it'll be easier" and then I went to tildes and in the first comment chain about rexxit there was a guy like "now I know it's much harder to join tildes than Lemmy" and I didn't know what was going to be easier or whatever but I liked the federation idea so I came here lol

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I did hear of Lemmy first, with immediate criticism about supporting the CCP and so on. The second alternative mentioned on Reddit was kbin which is where I went first.

Unfortunately kbin runs on PHP and you can really feel the site lagging at times, no clue why someone would port a stable Rust code base to this mess. lemmy.ml is lighting fast in comparison and has working federation.

I did also try sh.itjust.works as an alternative Lemmy instance (which would be nice as it blocks lemmygrad.ml), but it's in Canada and I'm in Europe, so the latency is noticeable.

So now I'm here, oh well.

[–] aponigricon@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of the Mod posts regarding the Blackout mentioned Lemmy as far as Iβ€˜m aware

Rumor has it they banned a lot of mods and communities for encouraging exactly that to their subscribers, so it was considered quite risky.

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[–] franzpow 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am trying to spread it on reddit but I am just a drop in the sea

[–] DarkTides@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You reached me. It may have only been a weak 2 day planned protest, but I'm here. I'm grateful for those that had spread the word. My dumbass certainly isn't smart enough to have found this place on my own.

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[–] Sir_Kevin@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I promoted the shit out of it right before the blackout. Only got banned from one subreddit. Who cares, not like I'm going back.

[–] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you post a hyperlink on Reddit to Lemmy, it will be autoremoved.

Try it now

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[–] ForbiddenRoot@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As the others have mentioned, I found out about Lemmy through multiple posts on Reddit. So at least at the time, a few days back, mentions of Lemmy were not being blocked / banned.

About promoting now: I think what would be better is if the supportive sub mods at Reddit made a community (or sublemmy, or whatever it should be correctly called) here first, and then posted a link to it on their blackout page on Reddit.

All that being said I am not sure I want a lot of the existing Reddit horde to invade Lemmy, but I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too.

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There is r/lemmymigration and r/kbinmigration . Kbin got banned pretty quick, but seems reinstated now (at least I can see it on Stealth).

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found out about lemmy on Reddit by chance and they wouldn’t say it by name, told me β€œrhymes with many”. Sounded like saying it would get people kicked off. Which made me want it even more. 🀣

[–] taj@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I heard about Lemmy on reddit too. Just before the blackout.

[–] DarkTides@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Pirate family on reddit exposed me to the wonders of lemmy, so at the very least piracy mods are based. Indefinite black outs too instead of that weak 2 day protest.

[–] brunofin@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found out about lemmy from r/EDC where they mentioned in their B.O. post they would be at https://sopuli.xyz/c/edc

here's the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/145fxdb/reddit_is_killing_itself/

[–] Aninjanameddaryll@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey :)

Welcome to lemmy. I'm the asshole mod that made the post lol.

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[–] dogmuffins@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Redditors in general just aren't that into lemmy. Most redditors come here expecting to find a 1 for 1 replacement pre-warmed with millions of users and brimming with reddit culture.

Not having an algorithm to tell people what they want to see is a bigger impediment to attracting users than most people realise.

Additionally, I think mods are reluctant to direct users to any other community as they will give up lordship of their own fiefdom. Sorry, I acknowledge that I have probably an unfairly dim view of mods. I'm sure some are amazing, but certainly many are self-obsessed power trippers. They act in their own interests to preserve control rather than acting in the interest of the community.

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[–] super_user_do@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago

Every post about Lemmy gets automatically banned πŸ€”

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't think it's against the rules but people will be annoyed if you just throw Lemmy into every conversation. Just spread the word where it's motivated.

[–] AbyssalChord@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I believe a coordinated and directed action could work well. Obviously random spam would just annoy people but the vast majority still hasnβ€˜t heard of Lemmy yet and if we manage to get to them at least once, would be ideal. We could target the largest subs that are open currently and either put up a comment on a hot post and use our manpower to upvote the comment to the top, or make new posts which are more likely to be removed.

[–] LostCause@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I found it on Reddit and seen it around, itβ€˜s spreading. Might write some comments myself too, as long as I still have Apollo to do so; so far I am liking it here.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We should make a community on Lemmy about promoting Lemmy on reddit. We could do something like an AMA with people talking about Lemmy. I don't see how they could stop us. If they ban us it's just more threads about how we got banned for talking.

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There is afaik: r/lemmymigration

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[–] RomanRoy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Probably something like RedditMigration (to mirror kbinMigration and lemmyMigration on Reddit) serving as a landing page, with consolidated info in a pinned post and encouragement to create a shitty post in there, just so they break the ice would be cool.

[–] RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy development really needs another couple weeks or a month. There are over 100 instances peering and it's really pushing the database systems hard with the 100,000 users already. Database tuning and query optimization in the code is the order of the day. I also think some of the new front-end apps for web and smartphones would help.

[–] dogmuffins@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm genuinely asking and don't mean this the way it sounds, but is this supposition or have you observed this yourself?

Everyone says their own instances aren't very resource intensive. Even the larger instances like lemmy.world don't seem to have huge specs.

Although there's a lot of subscriptions there doesn't seem to be an overwhelming amount of content being produced. The most active threads in /home have like 150 comments over 2 days? I don't have the data and this really is mere supposition but it just doesn't seem like that much load.

I did see they pushed a new version with some db optimisations so that's probably an indicator that you're right. Also things just feel unstable. Unusually long page load times or 500 errors just occasionally. Things definitely aren't great I'm just not certain that db linkages are the problem.

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[–] isdfoa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I also came here from suggestions on reddit. I don't think it's hard to find for anyone sincerely looking for an alternative.

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