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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 89 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this is the attitude I like. Don't release something unless it massively better than what came before.

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s valve’s philosophy though. It’s the reason we never got a half life 3.

[–] 520@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Half Life Alyx basically is HL3

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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never understood why folks are so obsessed over sequels. if a games good or a movie or whatever. it can just stand as being good. same if its the second one or whatever. Why does there even need to be another unless the artists have something to bring.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There, specifically, they ended on a cliffhanger and never delivered an awaited Episode Three, not a game, but an addon like Ep 1 and Ep 2, to put a satisfying end to HL2's plot. I'm not sure if they promised it, but to know how blue balled the public was, you can only visit the end of Ep 2 yourself. Half Life 2 is one of my all-time favs, but I hate that non-ending.

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the end of hl2 and the 'episodes' hurt us. I didn't get over it until code Geass hurt me more with the I am zero scene, and then I suffered for 8 months or so only to be subjected to that damned reboot fake out. I haven't played hl alyx in fear of it not bringing any closure and judging by how I haven't seen any headlines suggesting that and people still wanting hl3, it's probably safe to assume it doesn't. I have largely moved on but if they ever do make hl3 and I'm not on my death bed I will probably marathon the series like I did with dark souls, including the duplicate ds1 and ds2, my job be damned.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It does tho, go play it.

[–] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mostly agree with you.

I think there are a crowd of people who think that devs and writers can easily recapture the magic of the series and expand upon it in meaningful ways at will.

Then I think there are people who just love a game so much they want more of the same style content with few or no changes.

As an example, I really love The Outer Wilds, but you can only play it once since it hinges on you solving a bunch of interconnected puzzles which lead to an answer that was there all along. In other words, once you know, you can beat the game in about 7 minutes or so.

I would pretty much do anything for more of the same game. In fact, they could just keep making DLC for outer wilds with new planets and I'd play every release immediately.

Anyway, no complaints from me. The base game and the one DLC they released are literally flawless. I have the memories and warm feelings.

[–] ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Also it's Valve. People choose the projects they work on and are free to start their own projects.

I'd be a little surprised if there weren't several earnest attempts to make 3.

[–] thanevim@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Especially since their angle is a good midpoint of the trifecta of performance, price, and size.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

When there is a 2. Just know it will be the last Deck ever. We all know Valve can't count to 3.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They will just use labels instead of numbers.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 1 year ago

Would be hilarious if that was the release name of Deckard.

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[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 5 points 1 year ago

something something "Steam Deck 2: Episode 2"

[–] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but on the other hand, you also know it will be a massive evolution that will last several generations nevertheless.

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Is this what you've been waiting for? Say one, two...and four"

[–] Kraivo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Dota players: dunno what you are saying about. We literally have patch 7.34d now

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The release date just got one week later.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

But we can get 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.2.2

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just please let us update/download with the screen turned off or in hibernate. That's a big annoyance for me.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could see turning off the screen, but I don't see how you could download with a system hibernated.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Next we will have people complain about how putting the device to sleep still drains the battery.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be pretty easy to add a trigger when it plugs in to check if you're above some battery threshold, and, if you have pending downloads, complete them with the screen off, with a "download then sleep" button on the download page that turns off the screen.

I'm fine with other priorities instead, because the actual pace of development is perfectly fine, but it could be done without a lot of downside.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think psvita did it right. If you turn off the screen with download in progress, it'll continue the download, but will pause if it's not completed within about an hour so you won't get surprised with drained battery next time you turn it on. Windows "modern standby" however is notorious for draining laptop battery when you put your laptop to "sleep". Maybe valve can get it right unlike microsoft, and if they do, would be great if it could be ported to other linux laptop considering steam deck uses a laptop SoC.

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[–] misanthropy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can set the brightness to 0.. it's just Linux

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still feels a bit dumb doesn't it?

I mean, even the 3DS and the Vita were capable of performing this with the screen totally off (the 3DS lid closed).

And we are all used to doing this as a background task after all, I can even imagine myself having to have the screen on all the times to download the endless updates of my PS4 🫥

[–] misanthropy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah it is pretty dumb tbf. It should not only turn the screen off but pull the power back a bit for efficiency

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes like wtf

[–] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hold up, they’re releasing an OLED version????

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Yup, and it even has better battery life and is a bit lighter!

[–] CheeseToastie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That title made me think valve was going philosophical

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that the excuse they used for half life 3 as well?

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